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Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by inciampati on Friday April 12, 2019 @03:51PM (#19648383)
Your DNA is no more your private property than your or your grandmother's face.

It's just not that big a deal. You shed your DNA everywhere. Knowing it isn't more useful than information about your life that is already collected and used to manipulate you all the time. It's one of the weaker forms of personal information available.

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by ghaff on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:07PM (#19648521)
In the US, you do have certain rights to your image. I cannot use an identifiable photograph of you for marketing or advertising without your permission. (That's why, for example, a lot of conference registrations require you to affirmatively agree that photos or videos of you may be used for marketing purposes.)

But pretty much any other use of a photo in a public place is fair game if it doesn't misrepresent you in some way.

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by wahern on Friday April 12, 2019 @06:19PM (#19649565)
Not all states recognize such a right. But most media organizations are based or operate in states like California that do recognize it.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by Gene_Parmesan on Friday April 12, 2019 @08:13PM (#19650186)
31 states recognize such a right, but the extent of the protections involve vary considerably. In some states, it only protects your name and likeness, while others extend it all the way to things like "stage persona." California naturally has the highest degree of protection, given that it's the center of the entertainment industry.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by Razengan on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:40PM (#19648756)
> Knowing it isn't more useful than information about your life that is already collected and used to manipulate you all the time.

"Doing bad things isn't a big deal because of all the other bad things already being done." is not a good justification:

Should an individual feel free to "dox" you with impunity because Google and Facebook have been doing it to you for years anyway?

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by jammygit on Friday April 12, 2019 @03:55PM (#19648413)
I'm imagining a dumpster diving industry arising where people find hair scraps and sell them to insurance companies
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by johnfactorial on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:30PM (#19648673)
Agreed, "My DNA is my personal property," is a weak argument.

"My DNA is my personally-identifying data," is a better one.

The question of what rights we have to our personally identifiable information is not yet answered fully, and the debate is an important one (e.g. consider GDPR and the "right to be forgotten").

Data's worth is recognized today by those who are harvesting it from us. The mountains of data which only a few multinational corporations can gather and store in globally-distributed data centers are imperative to machine learning and the artificial intelligences they are making, which will soon direct a great many of our daily conveniences at potentially great profit to them.

So it is important for us to today define what rights we demand to such a valuable resource, which is created solely by, and living within, the only item any of us has true natural possession of: our very bodies.

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by class4behavior on Friday April 12, 2019 @05:00PM (#19648923)
>Agreed

Do not forget that op argues it isn't that big of a deal.

>Data's worth is recognized today by those who are harvesting it from us.

There is a lot more case-based, abstract, and long-term worth to privacy that is often unrecognized.

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by dhimes on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:50PM (#19648834)
I agree with you completely.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by smadge on Friday April 12, 2019 @05:03PM (#19648956)
Just because there are dozens of other pieces of personal information that are collected by the powers that be and used to manipulate people doesn’t mean they all are justified.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by vbuwivbiu on Friday April 12, 2019 @03:58PM (#19648444)
excuse me one's body and its DNA is most definitely one's property
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by wolco on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:07PM (#19648515)
Just like your finger prints, height or face. It is uniquely yours but not your property. It's your set of attributes.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by bradknowles on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:34PM (#19648708)
None of which are actually "uniquely yours", because everything we know to date about fingerprints or faces or DNA is that there is a low probability of collision with someone else having those same attributes, but it's not zero probability.

Somewhere, somewhen, there is likely to be another person who has a face, or fingerprints, or snippet of DNA that cannot be distinguished from yours within the accuracy of the tools we have today.

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by mattdodge on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:21PM (#19648605)
There was actually a podcast by Radiolab recently that discusses how and why this is not the case. It's counterintuitive for sure, but pretty interesting.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/asking-friend

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by ada1981 on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:03PM (#19648491)
What about the hair you leave behind on the subway? Or when you spit on the field during an ultimate frisbee game?

I can’t take your hair off your head, but I can take it off the ground.

Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by tremendo on Friday April 12, 2019 @07:09PM (#19649851)
What about the image of my face I left behind on the subway, or on the field during an ultimate frisbee game? Sure you can keep my image on your camera, or photo print, but you may not profit from it, because it isn't your property.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by wolco on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:08PM (#19648522)
Or your breathe you push out of your lungs.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by ada1981 on Friday April 12, 2019 @04:16PM (#19648574)
Exactly.
Re:A researcher needed three hours to identify me from my DNA by scarejunba on Friday April 12, 2019 @06:02PM (#19649451)
Which must mean that you're a thief if you've ever brushed past me on the street. Give my DNA back.