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Re:When the Jobless Become the Unemployable by brudgers on Thursday December 02, 2010 @10:59PM (#1964678)
A 55 year old who can't clearly bring more to the table than someone half their age is a concern. If the 25 year old was actually equally qualified, it would make sense to hire that person because they are young enough to move up the management track and into the succession track.

So if I'm looking at succession, I'm probably going young. If I'm looking for someone with enough sense to avoid re-inventing the wheel, I'm probably going mature.

[all of which is somewhat irrelevant to the effects of unemployment].

Re:When the Jobless Become the Unemployable by randallsquared on Friday December 03, 2010 @12:30AM (#1964885)
> it would make sense to hire that person because they are young enough to move up the management track and into the succession track.

So when you find someone good at code, you want to make sure to move them out of coding when possible and into something that skill and understanding of programming has no bearing on: management. [edit: removed pointlessly antagonistic remark]

Re:When the Jobless Become the Unemployable by brudgers on Friday December 03, 2010 @01:12AM (#1964954)
1. In 15 years you always have the option to hire the CTO from outside, but hopefully you have groomed internal candidates and created a culture where high caliber talent will stick.

2. Without opportunity for advancement, your best young talent will apply to YC.

3. Having managers which understand the technical aspects of the projects they manage, doesn't hurt.

Re:When the Jobless Become the Unemployable by ryanwaggoner on Thursday December 02, 2010 @11:47PM (#1964792)
You know this is illegal[1], right?

1. In the US...

Re:When the Jobless Become the Unemployable by brudgers on Friday December 03, 2010 @12:54AM (#1964926)
IANAL -

But AFAIK, hiring the older worker on the basis of age would never be illegal. Discriminating against an older candidate is illegal in certain circumstances, but not always.

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/age.html

In practice, such discrimination appears to be commonplace and virtually unpunished given the burden on the candidate to prove that discrimination actually occurred.

Considering that there were 22,000 Federal age discrimination claims in 2009 [http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/charges.cfm] and that 61% of all claims were considered to have no reasonable cause and 17% were closed administratively [http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/all.cfm] one could napkin estimate that about 5000 people had some success in claiming age discrimination. I'd be willing to bet that most of those successes were against an employer and not related to the hiring process.

Not that any of that makes it right.

Re:When the Jobless Become the Unemployable by rdl on Friday December 03, 2010 @12:15AM (#1964854)
Plus, the younger employee will probably be cheaper to insure, and may not have kids (although at 55 someone may not either, and if so would be less likely to gain them). All of which is highly illegal and lame, but may be a factor at some jobs.