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Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by kyllo on Friday April 12, 2019 @11:20AM (#19645555)
Your employer is able to bargain with you as one massive, collective organization with all its resources to bear. Why should you have to negotiate with them as a one atomic individual person, when you and your coworkers can instead get together and negotiate from a much stronger position?
Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by maxxxxx on Friday April 12, 2019 @11:24AM (#19645604)
The worst is that with the secrecy about compensation you don’t have enough information to negotiate effectively whereas the employer has full information.
Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by appleiigs on Friday April 12, 2019 @11:37AM (#19645761)
When you join the union, you lose the atomic individuality. I've been a union member and a manager outside of a union. When I was in the union, they tried to prevent me from getting paid more - they wanted me to fall in line with the collective agreement which specified my hourly rate. If you don't go with mob, they call you a scab. Not pretty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikebreaker
Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by mises on Friday April 12, 2019 @11:39AM (#19645775)
There's a difference between unionization and trying to get board representation. Also, in many states, you're stuck dealing with a union in many jobs. You now have to negotiate with the union as one atomic person...

The thing I personally hate about unions is their political advocacy. The idea that a worker is stuck supporting a politician he might not agree with is one that makes me very uncomfortable.

Also, I think appleiigs summarized it better than I did, with the lack of individuality.

Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by scarface74 on Saturday April 13, 2019 @12:03AM (#19651063)
I can already negotiate better than my coworkers. Why should I tie my compensation to theirs?
Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by kyllo on Monday April 15, 2019 @01:14AM (#19663245)
Because if you and your co-workers all negotiate together, you have more bargaining power and can extract much greater concessions.
Re:Tech workers are organizing and demanding democracy in th... by scarface74 on Monday April 15, 2019 @02:13PM (#19667431)
But it also means that the people of lower ability whether technical or negotiating get more but the people with more ability get less.

Unions really fight against performance based differences...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/us/denver-teacher-strike....

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/michel-kellygagnon/union-perfo...

As it turns out, union contracts don't just set minimum prices that employees can be paid; they also tend to set pay ceilings that employers cannot exceed without the union's permission--and that permission is rarely forthcoming. Paying the most talented, hardest-working employees more than the average Joe who barely works to rule is not allowed, you see.