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Re:Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars by vkou on Thursday April 11, 2019 @01:42PM (#19637153)
The solution is to get people to stop being assholes on the road. Fine tailgaters. I care about the safety issues caused by them a lot more then I do about people going 6 over the limit.

Following any closer then 2 seconds of traveling distance on a clear, dry day, 3 seconds at night, or in the rain, 4 seconds on a rainy night should be considered reckless driving.

Re:Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars by mattferderer on Thursday April 11, 2019 @02:00PM (#19637368)
I feel like driving cars turns most people into idiots, myself included at times.
Re:Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars by Balgair on Thursday April 11, 2019 @02:37PM (#19637752)
I don't have the citation, but I remember this quote:

"The easiest way to make people stupid is to limit their degrees of freedom"

Cars really only have 2 degrees of freedom: linear acceleration and radial acceleration. In traffic, these DoFs go down by a lot. You ability to de/accelerate linearly is very limited by the cars behind you and in front of you. Your turning also goes down to nearly a binary choice of 1 lane left/right.

Get people 4-wheeling and the stupid is very much still there, but just to get back to a main road, you have to use your noggin a fair bit more. Folks tend to think things through and weight choices more.

Re:Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars by dsfyu404ed on Thursday April 11, 2019 @02:47PM (#19637874)
Are the horn and middle finger(s) not also degrees of freedom?
Re:Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars by Balgair on Thursday April 11, 2019 @03:19PM (#19638185)
Actually, you make a good point.

The social dynamics are themselves a dimension. Social network graphs can behave as fractals. In a gymnasium filled with people, there is a significant 'fractallyness' to the social network. In traffic, the fractallyness is very limited to just about all the people in the road near you. The social graph, though more fluid in a traffic jam than a pep-rally, is still fairly small.

3Blue1Brown has a great video on the dimensionality of fractals [0] that is useful here. I'm just going to spitball, but I'd bet that the dimensionality of the social graph of a traffic jam is really close to 1.

So in the end, the DoFs of a traffic jam are probably very close to 3, but just a bit over. Say, 3.14-ish. ;)

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB9n2gHsHN4

Re:Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars by afiori on Friday April 12, 2019 @07:10AM (#19643746)
The easiest way to solve this problem is to have serious standards from driving license tests. Have would be drivers perform reliably in a variety of conditions and in longer trips and mercilessly fail people who do not meet the high bar.