Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks

Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by genai on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:08PM (#19621453)

Good question, IANAL but how is a human artist drawing a face (based on their learned reality of what a face looks like) any different than a GAN drawing a face (based on the GAN learned reality)?

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:12PM (#19621466)

> IANAL but how is a human artist drawing a face (based on their learned reality of what a face looks like) any different than a GAN drawing a face (based on the GAN learned reality)?

A human artist is a legal person, a GAN is not. That's a fairly substantial legal difference.

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by eismcc on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:28PM (#19621570)

Reminds me of Bicentennial Man: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0182789/

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by moocowtruck on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:33PM (#19621593)

but the person who executed the GAN is a human, they are an artist who's tools are just different

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by genai on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:16PM (#19621488)

But the output result is the same (i.e. human can produce a drawing of a face, GAN can produce a new drawing of a face).

If another animal such as chimp draws a human face what do you think would be the outcome? Would a chimp drawing a face be any different to a human drawing a face?

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:22PM (#19621514)

> But the output result is the same

Law is only extremely rarely concerned with only output results and not process, status of actors, etc.

> Would a chimp drawing a face be any different to a human drawing a face?

Yes, legally, the outcome wouldd be different (whether it was original, a direct copy, or something made by copying elements but with some new content) because chimps are neither legal actors that can create a copyright through authorship nor ones who can violate copyright.

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by genai on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:29PM (#19621576)

Interesting, also what do you mean by "status of actors"?

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Re:Open Questions about Generative Adversarial Networks by mikehollinger on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @08:20AM (#19623872)

There’s a really interesting adjacent problem - the so-called “monkey selfie” which was recently settled by stating that works created by a non human we’re not copyrightable.

See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disp...

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