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Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by asveikau on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @09:55AM (#19614617)
> very few kids/families,

I am raising my kids here and disagree with your assessment. There is a pretty good community of families here.

Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by diab0lic on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:05AM (#19614723)
That's all well and good that you disagree, but SF has 13.4% persons under 18 compared to the national average of 22.6% [0]. There are very few kids / families.

[0] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocit...

Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by fatnoah on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:11AM (#19615425)
Agree that good community doesn't necessarily equal large community. I live in Boston, which I believe is somewhere around 17%, and in the central neighborhoods I lived in, percentage of households with families was < 10%. Despite being small, it was a "good" community in that you got to know many of the other families in the neighborhood, I coached local sports, etc. It didn't feel small because of the density of the area AND people were generally on foot or transit and not driving. Running into a family we knew was a daily occurrence. All of those things contributed to making a small population feel much better.
Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by francisofascii on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:09AM (#19614775)
I wonder if there are specific neighborhoods with families closer to the national average?
Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by asveikau on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:09AM (#19614776)
You say something mathematically precise and then switch into a vague "very few". Take some walks around the parks and go people watching, you will get a better feel for what that "very few" can mean.

13% of 800,000 is about 100,000. Very few.

Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by diab0lic on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:13AM (#19614829)
I was restating the line you quoted, and yes precisely SF has very few families compared to other cities in the US. A sister comment seems to indicate that even NYC is 24% (I haven't verified this.) So even for similar urbanization levels SF has very few families.
Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by asveikau on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:21AM (#19614916)
Go look around. There are a lot of kids.

My point isn't about in comparison to other cities, it is more, does a smaller rate really mean "few" and how much of a problem is it really. It's not the problem that the most negative naysayers will claim. Note I didn't say something like "affordability poses no problems for families". Because it does. But there is indeed a vibrant community.

Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by tntn on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:14AM (#19614847)
http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty....

I don't think there are other major cities where the population is < 14% children. NYC is around 24%.

Your view of the "pretty good community" is irrelevant. Compared to other cities, San Francisco has "very few kids/families."

Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by pelemele on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:00AM (#19615335)
San Francisco — where drug addicts outnumber high school students

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/article/San-F...

Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by boringg on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:49AM (#19615224)
Census is dated. I can vouch there are a lot more families now in the city. Hospital baby birthing rooms are filling up - there is a legit surge of babies in the city right now.
Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by asveikau on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:53AM (#19615271)
The crowd arguing with me might say that a bunch of those babies will move to the east bay or similar by school age. And many will. But it's still a very good place to raise kids and grow up.
Re:San Francisco’s Slow-Motion Suicide by wbl on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:07AM (#19614751)
The Ammerican Community Survey disagrees.