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Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by raganwald on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @07:00PM (#1960323)
I think it's great that you've tried to provide a review criticizing this post. But please resist the urge to tell me what I ought to find funny, just as I have resisted the urge to tell you what you ought to find interesting.

Especially resist the urge to criticize others for liking things you find unworthy. Your comment's criticism of the OP is appreciated. Your comment's criticism of other members for voting for the post is, well, something else entirely.

Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by jmillikin on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @07:05PM (#1960335)
Surely there are better places to post funny but thought-free links than Hacker News?
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by scotch_drinker on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @07:39PM (#1960439)
Have you ever tried to write satire? Done well, it's exceptionally difficult. The post may be many things but thought free is certainly not one of them.
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by raganwald on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @07:18PM (#1960374)
Privately, I agree with you and I haven't upvoted it. After that, I suggest that our options are to (1) Flag it if it's really off topic, and/or (2) Criticize it, which I think you've done well. My only concern is whether we should (3) be galled or outraged that others have their own idea of what ought to be #1 on HN.

I like humour, and it seems like we share a personal preference for the kind that makes you laugh and then think hard when you realize that there's something incredibly insightful at the heart of the joke.

Alas, I'm not skilled enough to pull that off myself. All I can say about Haskell is to quote Alan Perlis: A language that does not change the way you think about programming is not worth learning. And given that, the sad observation that most "Industry Types" as stereotyped in the OP are not interested in changing the way they think about anything.

It's more than a Blub thing, it's a comfort zone thing.

Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by bpyne on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @11:46PM (#1961041)
I think comfort zone plays a part in IT developers seeming uninterested in "new" ideas. Closer to the heart of the problem IMO is that most business applications are just not very interesting. You can reduce them to: take input values from screen, run SQL query, and post query results back to the screen. Writing good SQL is the most challenging part.

In order for apps to be more interesting - making new ideas in IT appealing - businesses must be willing to re-examine their processes and change them with an eye towards better automation and some business intelligence. However, getting a single department in a business to change its processes is as monumental as changing global warming.

Of course, another issue altogether is COTS reducing the applications actually written in-house. Making intellectual investments in powerful programming languages is just not sound when a developer is simply writing "glue" code between vendor systems.

People do generally get jazzed up in IT departments when new technologies come around. Sure, there are technological curmudgeons, but very few. Enthusiasm gets dampened when it is clear that a good business case cannot be made for the new technology.

(I used "new" relative to an IT department's current environment and not in reference to age of the technology.)

Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by Dilpil on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @08:52PM (#1960647)
This is humor understandable only by programmers, specifically, programmers who have some understanding of Haskell- I would hardly call that thought free humor.
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by tjr on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @10:11PM (#1960836)
I read your comments before reading the article, and fully expected to loathe the article. I found it well-written and amusing. I for one am pleased that it ranks highly on Hacker News.
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by lanstein on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @07:28PM (#1960407)
Here's some content-rich Yegge for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BttI-y9VzXQ
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by angrycoder on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @11:14PM (#1960992)
Yeah, because lord knows how programmers hate to laugh.
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by drivebyacct2 on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @09:52PM (#1960793)
See, other places, people would ignore the submission rather than focusing the conversation on the post. The effort required to rant about a humor piece on HN is considerably than the effort it takes to glance past the obvious satirically titled post.
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by niels_olson on Wednesday December 01, 2010 @11:34PM (#1961018)
please resist the urge to tell me what I ought to <verb>. Oh, wait . . .
Re:Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Progra... by raganwald on Thursday December 02, 2010 @07:28AM (#1961906)
This is the inherent irony of meta-commenting, and one of the reasons why many online communities try to either discourage or moderate it."Don't X!" "Don't tell me not to X!!" "Will you two stop talking about X!!!" And so forth.