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Re:Dieter Rams designed products to last, is horrified how w... by sizzle on Saturday April 06, 2019 @08:01PM (#19593823)
How do you see fully electric cars improving over this situation you describe with low quality ICE car internals failing? For example, oil filters are no longer an issue if you opt for a Tesla.

How do you service electric cars compared to ICE cars?

Will the move to electric cars fundamentally hurt the car repair industry and will you have to go back to school to learn about servicing electric engines?

Thanks!

Re:Dieter Rams designed products to last, is horrified how w... by village-idiot on Saturday April 06, 2019 @08:40PM (#19594003)
As it currently stands, electric cars are going to hurt the car repair industry, excepting body work. The parts on an EV either last forever, or are relatively easy to replace.

This is going to be a problem for most dealerships, as repair and service is a large chunk of their profit.

Re:Dieter Rams designed products to last, is horrified how w... by StudentStuff on Saturday April 06, 2019 @10:16PM (#19594377)
I agree that the car repair industry will be hurting due to electric vehicles, but not for the same reasons. As Tesla has shown, locking out non-corporate repairs is easy, even body work is something you can choke out from 3rd party shops by refusing to provide parts (hence the incredible repair costs for Tesla vehicles).

A profit driven electric car company can decide that any minor damage to the car will mean they push out a firmware update to brick the car. You don't own the software that makes the vehicle function, hence your at the mercy of the manufacturer letting you use their software.

Re:Dieter Rams designed products to last, is horrified how w... by TeMPOraL on Sunday April 07, 2019 @05:26AM (#19595753)
> The parts on an EV either last forever

For now. It's an iron law of the market economy that once this sector becomes competitive, costs will get optimized to the point that - like currently with ICE cars - the reliability will be lowest possible that they can get away with. There's no law of physics saying EVs are built reliably; there just isn't enough economic incentive to start building low-reliability parts. That will change as EVs gain popularity.

Re:Dieter Rams designed products to last, is horrified how w... by village-idiot on Sunday April 07, 2019 @08:53PM (#19601058)
There’s also an iron law that simpler machines are easier to make reliable, and the electric motor is orders of magnitude simpler than a supercharged multi-cylinder internal combustion engine.