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Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by senectus1 on Friday April 05, 2019 @12:59PM (#19584563)
I don't get why people are so uptight about other peoples sexual preferences. Surely we're past the whole "Aids is a gay disease" stage by now? I know that was a big part of the uptight anti queer movement for a long time. Hell even that term is really self defeating. (Queer)

Who I am attracted to is about what I personally like. It has nothing to do with what other people think is right or not.

that's thought policing and fuck anyone who thinks that shit is OK.

Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by krapp on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:09PM (#19584693)
>Surely we're past the whole "Aids is a gay disease" stage by now?

Nope. People still believe that.

People still believe that God sends hurricanes and terrorist attacks to punish societies that tolerate LGBT people.

People still believe that LGBT people are just closet pedophiles, and equate accepting them with accepting bestiality.

The LGBT community itself has people (TERFs) in it who believe transgender people are just men pretending to be women for sexual gratification.

We haven't really moved past any of that.

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Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by lenticular on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:23PM (#19584872)
By "not all," you should say "nearly none." I can tell you must not know any transpeople.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by philwelch on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:30PM (#19584981)
People still believe that apostasy should be punished by death. People still believe that Stalin did nothing wrong. People still believe that the Bourbon monarchy was a good regime and that France has faced nothing but centuries of decline since they tried to abolish it.

"People still believe" isn't a meaningful or impactful argument. You can find at least 100 people who believe virtually anything, because there are over seven billion people and the human mind has much more than a 1 in 70 million chance of believing something dumb.

Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by krapp on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:50PM (#19585215)
We're talking about far more than a few kooks on the fringe of society, though. The beliefs I described are mainstream in some places, and anti-gay bigotry is codified into law in some countries.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by philwelch on Friday April 05, 2019 @03:30PM (#19586155)
So is punishing apostasy with death--usually the same countries.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by lenticular on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:00PM (#19585328)
I'm gay. You should believe me when I tell you that plenty of people still believe it is wrong and it does impact me in very big ways. Times that by 10 for transpeople. Do not attempt to speak for these groups when you have no idea of what their experiences are.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by philwelch on Friday April 05, 2019 @04:23PM (#19586644)
You're assuming that I'm straight. Interesting. Also false.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by lenticular on Friday April 05, 2019 @04:42PM (#19586821)
Sorry, my mistake. However, you are repeating the claims of crypto-homophobes that deny that anti-LGBT discrimination is still a very big problem. It is still a horrible scourge, and minimizing it is morally wrong. You may not experience too many issues due to what I imagine is a higher-middle class tech industry social status, probably in a coastal city, but others aren't so lucky. I stand by my criticism.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by philwelch on Friday April 05, 2019 @05:50PM (#19587382)
Then discuss how and why it's a big problem instead of making existence claims. That's my only point.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by lenticular on Friday April 05, 2019 @06:10PM (#19587504)
Are you seriously asking me for evidence of my claim that homophobia is a big problem? Do you need similar evidence of racism being a big problem?
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by philwelch on Friday April 05, 2019 @08:22PM (#19588321)
No, because you've demonstrated neither the capacity nor the inclination for good-faith discussion. I'm simply clarifying my original point, since I seem to have expressed it poorly in the first place.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by stcredzero on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:27PM (#19584935)
The LGBT community itself has people (TERFs) in it who believe transgender people are just men pretending to be women for sexual gratification.

Many TERFs are effectively identitarians. The unfortunate reality, is that every widespread system which can be exploited, will eventually be exploited. So society needs to be designed with this in mind. Otherwise, one is just providing ammunition to people like TERFs. (Ideological slogans like, "Listen and believe," have probably meant with good intentions, but are epistemologically bankrupt. The same goes for all erosions of due process and innocent until proven guilty.)

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Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by lenticular on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:10PM (#19585406)
Try tens of millions of people in Africa. This is an extremely bigoted comment. As a gay man, I am disappointed that HN is allowing viewpoints like this to be spread. This sort of thing is why the tech industry has such a bad reputation with these topics.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by throwaway_98554 on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:13PM (#19585439)
I'm open to seeing the HIV stats of heterosexual VS homosexual African data. Can you link it?
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by DoreenMichele on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:17PM (#19585478)
Such info isn't at all hard to find. It's a quick google away. It is also common knowledge that heterosexual transmission is high in some parts of Africa.

Here's a couple of pieces I found in short order:

https://www.jwatch.org/jw199110040000006/1991/10/04/heterose...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8420583

Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by throwaway_98554 on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:24PM (#19585542)
Except the first one requires a subscription, and the second one talks about heterosexual, not homosexual transmission.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by lenticular on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:17PM (#19585474)
Try google. This information is easily available.
Re:Where do our sexual preferences come from and how flexibl... by deogeo on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:30PM (#19585603)
> This is an extremely bigoted comment.

Looks more US-centric than bigoted to me. You are disappointed HN allows statistics gathered by the CDC to be spread?