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Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by Spooky23 on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:53AM (#19583743)
The republican issue is the post-LBJ realignment of racists and western resource owners with the old-school "chamber of commerce" mainstream GOP.

The problem is a democratic party one -- they need to figure out a way to grow beyond their urban core to appeal to some subset of rural and other voters. You need a better message to control the Senate.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by kevin_thibedeau on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:43PM (#19585133)
There's no real way to counter the Republican strategy which is to build a voting bloc by appealing to the baser tribal instincts of humanity. They have carefully crafted an image that hides their true nature from those who vote them into power. All failings are blamed on the opposition, further reinforcing the group identity. Those who control the party get all the benefits. Those who keep electing them get to stew in their perpetual acrimony.
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by Spooky23 on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:52PM (#19585245)
Farmers were the original progressives. The embrace of corporate interests above all else is what drove those folks away.

The GOP is the party of grievance. The democrats are a big tent, but smaller groups get lost in the crowd.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by nickthemagicman on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:35PM (#19585043)
It's not that the Dems have a bad message. It's that republican propoganda has made it hard to make inroads in these places no matter the message.

Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and not lose a single voter. And he's right.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by mastox on Friday April 05, 2019 @02:44PM (#19585745)
Who should non-racist proud white Americans, that believe in individuals over groups first, and doesn't care who marries who or why, vote for?
Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by eximius on Friday April 05, 2019 @07:20PM (#19587972)
For now, not Republicans. Republicans (the politicians) don't care about individuals, despite what they claim, and they downright disagree with the rest of your position behind closed doors.

If we can change our voting system, then maybe I can give you better advice. Until then, game theory suggests voting Democrat.

> proud white Americans

Better be careful here. Proud to be an American is okay. Proud to be white... why should anyone be proud of the color of their skin? Even if it should be okay (but honestly white people have an awful history, as do most skin colors if you look back far enough), it's so arbitrary. There's nothing to be proud of, you just have specific pigmentation.

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by mastox on Friday April 05, 2019 @09:01PM (#19588471)
> Better be careful here. Proud to be an American is okay. Proud to be white... why should anyone be proud of the color of their skin? Even if it should be okay (but honestly white people have an awful history, as do most skin colors if you look back far enough), it's so arbitrary. There's nothing to be proud of, you just have specific pigmentation.

I cannot argue with any of this, and highlights some of my flawed thinking. I guess I thought of "white americans" as an abstraction of Americans of European decent. So I guess, I don't know the proper way to convey "Someone who is proud of their European heritage, and proud of being an American."

Re:The IRS Tried to Take on the Ultrawealthy – It Didn’t Go ... by nickthemagicman on Friday April 05, 2019 @07:27PM (#19588011)
White Americans?

You apparently do care about groups over individuals, using that classification.