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Re:Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airl... by bilbo0s on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:26PM (#19579424)
People may get angry about this fact, but it really is the simple reality of an executive's fiduciary obligations. Ideally you run the enterprise in a manner that keeps the discharge of fiduciary duties within your personal moral constraints, but if you're not careful enough, you end up in this guy's shoes. And that's why they pay him the big bucks, because of such risks.

That said, it's also true that Boeing is in a boatload of trouble. This is gonna get ugly. Likely not for the CEO. I'm pretty sure his signature is not on any of the relevant paperwork. But now that this report has been released, it might be prudent for people who do have their signatures on the relevant paperwork just to consult with some legal counsel. I suspect Boeing, as a company, wouldn't hesitate to throw them under the bus.

Re:Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airl... by onli on Friday April 05, 2019 @05:37AM (#19581016)
> People may get angry about this fact, but it really is the simple reality of an executive's fiduciary obligations.

Sorry, but that's bull. Owning the mistake - and yes, that includes paying the families of the victims - and offering a serious apology combined with "that's what we will do to make sure it never happens again" would have been the best way to guarantee that Boeing as the current company will continue to exist. Right now they risk the 737 MAX being scrapped and governments around the work taking actions against the obvious regulatory shortcomings - the corruption that obviously happened, to have a plane being able to run itself into the ground based on one sensor system without any redundancies or other securities.

Now they need the US to protect them with further illegal subventions and government influence because they are too important for that country to fail. That's in no way the ideal way to follow "fiduciary obligations".

Re:Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airl... by salawat on Friday April 05, 2019 @11:15AM (#19583351)
>People may get angry about this fact, but it really is the simple reality of an executive's fiduciary obligations.

With all due respect, that's Bullshit, and anyone who cares to look into the provenance of the modern concept of a corporation can see that.

A corporation is a mechanism by which people pool resources and distribute risk such that endeavors unachievable by any individual of that collective group. This privileged collective vehicle, however, was based on the principle that the existence of the corporation was providing a service or good to the benefit of the society enabling the incorporation.

As a sibling poster mentioned, the Reagan/Thatcher years ushered in "the death of Society" and the birth of the "shareholder value" meme.

A corporation does not exist without the societal framework in which it is implemented. If corporations don't take this into account moving forward, the system that put them in a position to do what they are doing may find itself under attack from without by legislators, and within by an increasingly marginalized millennial demographic.

Point being, you can't sit here and say that the only obligation executives have is to their shareholders when the entire arrangement that makes that possible is dependent on the goodwill of everyone else who isn't a shareholder.

I acknowledge my arguments may not convince a hard core "shareholder value" believer, but I'm willing to put my money in the long run on the state of corporatism in America sidling up to a line after which there isn't going to be much they have to lean on once people start realizing that shareholder/not shareholder is becoming the new social division point. Either we're all countrymen, or we're not. If corporate America pounds the "not" drum hard enough, I have no delusions enough people won't get together to bring the entire house of cards to the ground.

Re:Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg Addresses the Ethiopian Airl... by bitreality on Friday April 05, 2019 @01:15PM (#19584776)
Your point is well received, and one would expect society to function that way, but it does not. People won't knock any house of cards to the ground unless they are starving. It's impossible to achieve anything of significance as individuals. And no organization fighting against the status quo could acquire enough resources to make a dent.

Corporations and government have hands in each others' pockets. They are protected by court systems designed in their favor, weapons which could wipe out populations in an instant, and complete control of the technology we all use to communicate.