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Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by usrusr on Thursday April 04, 2019 @02:27PM (#19575555)
Being capable of performing a glide without electricity does not necessarily imply that a no-power glide can safely be entered from extreme conditions like diving too fast with trim set to insane.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by fgonzag on Thursday April 04, 2019 @02:48PM (#19575766)
But being able to actually utilize all your control surfaces without electrical power must be a basic requirement.

They could make the trim control wheel mechanically assisted, for example (since there are cases where electronic trim control is required because because of the amount of force needed to turn the wheel)

Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by Rooster61 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @03:13PM (#19576023)
> They could make the trim control wheel mechanically assisted

I'd imagine it already IS mechanically assisted. There is a limit to how much you can amplify a pilot's input mechanically, and I'd imagine the load on the aircraft exceeded the amount of amplification needed.

I.e. your car has power steering, so the car manually adds power to the turn based on the user's input. That doesn't mean that something in the road can't override the input of both the driver and power steering and jerk the wheel.

Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by Domenic_S on Thursday April 04, 2019 @03:47PM (#19576377)
Why is it possible to set the trim to insane? Is there a legitimate scenario where that would be used?
Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by 781 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @05:51PM (#19577466)
Well, the plane might be at an insane angle, so then you need an insane trim setting to correct it :)
Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by ls612 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @04:34PM (#19576823)
If the AoA was truly way too high then insane trim would be required to correct that. MCAS and similar systems came about in response to AF 447 where the pilots entered a high AoA situation and stalled the plane into the Atlantic.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by cjbprime on Thursday April 04, 2019 @05:02PM (#19577077)
Is it necessarily true that you have to use the stabilizer for MCAS? Would implementing a stick pusher instead fail to avoid some stalls?
Re:Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX Investigation Preliminary Report by Zak on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:37PM (#19578868)
It's true in the case of the 737 MAX where the pitch-up moment caused by the engines exceeds the elevator authority in a low-speed, high-thrust situation if the pitch trim is also set too high.

MCAS will evidently work with less maximum nose-down trim than the current version has, as the proposed update places a limit on it.