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Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by dragontamer on Thursday April 04, 2019 @02:13PM (#19575382)
> You can’t charge a Honda at home

Honda Clarity begs to differ.

> And then when you do need to drive 200+ miles in a day, which for most people is a handful of days a year, you can use chargers which add 100 miles in 10 minutes.

Not as good as a "charger" (Gas Station) that adds 300 miles in 2 minutes.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by Brakenshire on Thursday April 04, 2019 @04:57PM (#19577031)
I’m talking about EV’s in general, Honda Clarity is another decent example.

If your car always starts each day with 250 miles range, stopping to charge outside of the house is a rare ocurrence. Having a break for 20 minutes rather than 5 minutes after 3 hours of driving, a handful of times each year, isn’t my idea of a dealbreaker.

The big problem as I say is the extent of the network, especially in rural areas. Most of the adoption over the next 5-10 years will likely be in cities and suburbs.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by dragontamer on Thursday April 04, 2019 @05:00PM (#19577049)
Depends. My family always stops at a particular location in Virginia whenever we travel south (or back north) on vacations. Its literally a family tradition. There's no Supercharger close by, but plenty of gas stations.

To go pure electric would mean giving up this yearly family tradition for our summer road-trips. We'd have to change the stop to fit the car (ie: find a new spot closer to a supercharger). That's definitely not worth the hassle.

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We stop for 30+ minutes by the way for food and mental breaks while driving. But the LOCATION we stop at could be a national park, a mall, little towns we've grown to love, etc. etc.

A few of those locations DO have superchargers. But the majority of them do NOT. As such, a pure electric car would force us to give up family road-trip traditions.

> I’m talking about EV’s in general, Honda Clarity is another decent example.

Honda Clarity has 47 mile all-electric range, and 300-mile range on the gas generator. It can perpetually exist on gasoline. But typical day trips to and from work can likely be within the all-electric range.

It won't go onto gas-generator mode unless the battery gets low. Something like this vehicle would work for my family.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by Brakenshire on Thursday April 04, 2019 @07:46PM (#19578284)
Yeah, I see your point, this is I suppose about what is called the destination charger network. This is a last mile situation with a lot of capital needed to build out a full network, which will make it more difficult for Tesla when competing with open standard charging networks. In Europe it looks a lot better, because the model 3 can use any CCS charger. I think we’ll end up with a few percentage points of all parking spots having 10-50kW chargers, especially for places where people tend to stop off on journeys. It’s starting to happen, but is a long way off what’s needed. It will be a lot easier in some places than others because of geography and population density. In some places plug in hybrids will undoubtedly be an important part of the market for a long time.

Where I am, 300 miles will get you almost across the country, so it’s a different calculation from yours!