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Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by Klathmon on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:08AM (#19573191)
I'm not sure why i'm jumping into this thread, but 50% cheaper!? You want a brand new electric car for $17.5k USD?

Even the cheapest ICE cars sold in the US have trouble hitting that number... That just seems like a completely unreasonably high bar to hold EVs to at this point since things like batteries are so much more expensive than an ICE engine.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by mikeash on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:20AM (#19573340)
A quick search on cars.com reveals 1,700 new cars within 50 miles of my zip code for under $15,000.

I agree that a decent EV for that price is just not practical yet, but cheap ICE cars have no trouble hitting it.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by Klathmon on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:36AM (#19573547)
That's fair I guess, I did a cursory search and saw things from Toyota and Nissan in the $16-18k range, and I didn't really search more.

But I was also expecting to compare MSRP, but I now realize that it's not really a good comparison since Teslas are bought less like cars (with haggling and discounts) and more like a new phone (you pay the price they set). Still, I'm floored that ICE cars are that cheap!

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by mikeash on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:47AM (#19573689)
Yeah, you can believe the MSRP for Tesla but for other cars you need to see what the local dealers are offering. (And even then, it’s approximate.)

The low end gets very basic, but some people just want cheap transportation and don’t care about features.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by stcredzero on Thursday April 04, 2019 @01:12PM (#19574701)
Still, I'm floored that ICE cars are that cheap!

If you wait, you'll probably see a special for Nissan Versas just over 10k.

Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by akhilcacharya on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:23AM (#19573373)
My parents' 2016 Leaf (last gen) was about that price or less after utility price cut ($10k off) and tax credit.
Re:Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet by r_smart on Thursday April 04, 2019 @04:05PM (#19576527)
I bought my Honda Fit for $16.5k. It's one of the more expensive cars in it's class, but me, I was willing to pay a little more for the luxury :)