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Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by SiempreViernes on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:15AM (#19571872)
While it is certainly possible to give people enough money to become uninterested of working, one of the conclusions of the experiment is that the UBI version tested did not make people less efficient at seeking employment. UBI just made them happier.

In other words, not implementing their UBI version is simply a way to punish unemployed people for not having a job. You can still argue that unemployed people should be unhappy, but you no longer have any basis for saying that unhappines will make them more likely to get a job.

Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by b_tterc_p on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:53AM (#19573770)
They didn’t get UBI forever, they got it for a fixed amount of time. If they quit working, they would be shit out of luck when they money stopped flowing. It’s not a very useful experiment.

Really this is just basic economics though. Money has decreasing marginal utility. The first stack of cash you get pays rent, then food, then later on luxuries. For low income workers, the opportunity cost of not working is not being able to afford basic things. If that’s covered, there’s no reason to do a crappy job for low pay. You don’t even need to assume laziness. If cashiers now have their basic needs covered and want to go invest their time into improving their education, then the cost of cashiers goes up. If the cost of cashiers goes up, the cost of food goes up. If the cost of food goes up, the original UBI is now too low, so the cashiers need to stop pursuing education and get some money again. If an equilibrium exists, it’s going to be at the point where poor people need to work, because somebody needs to clean the toilets.

Re:Finland’s Basic Income Experiment Shows Recipients Are Ha... by mises on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:43AM (#19572169)
> UBI... did not make people less efficient at seeking employment.

No, it didn't make them significantly lazier short term.