Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by Yetanfou on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:01AM
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Please stop looking for racism in each and every aspect of public discourse, it does way more harm than it has the potential to do good. The harm lies in the ever larger focus on things which have the potential to divide people, be they race or sex or gender or religion or any other section. In this case there may have been a suggestion of the pilots having undergone less rigorous training and the aircraft being maintained at a lower standard than would be the case for 1st world airlines. These things may be true or they may not be, the airline safety records are among the potential ways to ascertain the veracity of such statements. This has nothing whatsoever to do with race so it does not make sense to try to draw this in as a factor unless someone made explicit claims in that direction. I have not seen any such claims, if you can point at them - and I do mean explicit claims, not so-called 'dog whistles' as those are subjective - please do so, otherwise keep race out of this discussion.
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Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by CaptainZapp on Thursday April 04, 2019 @09:02AM
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Fine. Not racism then.
Can we agree on xenophobic and bigoted?
The discussions here provide ample evidence for that.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by Tsubasachan on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:28AM
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I think a lot of people still have this idea that everyone in Africa is poor. The reality is that Africa has flagship carriers that are as old and prestigious as those found in the West and that the African economy is booming.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by matt4077 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:35AM
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Just check the bottom of this threat with “show all comments” enabled in your preferences.
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Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by fcbaker on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:11AM
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That is not what the comment said. The comment said "stop talking about race all the time", which is literally what Morgan Freeman (black) also said.
Coming back to Western European air safety biases: Russian airlines had a bad reputation for many decades in Western Europe. Racially, you cannot get more white/caucasian than Russians.
Introducing race without specific quotes is nonsense.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by mr_overalls on Thursday April 04, 2019 @10:08AM
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You impugn one type of bias while openly indulging in another. But this is acceptable in many circles today, so I suppose your comment will be upvoted.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by Yetanfou on Thursday April 04, 2019 @11:22AM
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You're implying I am 'white', 'western-European' and '[a] guy' even though this is irrelevant and there is no indication of either my race, origin or sex in my post. Please stop doing that, it only serves to create strife where no strife is needed. It is almost as if you did not read the comment you responded to or - worse - decided to ignore it because it does not fit a given narrative.
Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by danielg6 on Thursday April 04, 2019 @12:42PM
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You didn’t read through or even skim the hundreds of comments on the other HN posts. And don’t tell me about the policy saying not to tell people they didn’t read the article or whatever it is. You didn’t read them. If you did, you wouldn’t have used the phrase “Stop looking for racism”. There were many comments where people explicitly said racist and xenophobic things. There’s nothing to “look for” when it’s explicitly stated...
You even used the word “explicit” yourself...
Re:Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 pilots 'could not stop nose...
by calcifer on Thursday April 04, 2019 @05:09PM
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> You're implying I am 'white', 'western-European' and '[a] guy'
I'm saying it out right, not 'implying'. Based on your comment history, I think I'm right on all three of those adjectives, though I'm happy to be corrected.