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Re:25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds by throwthrow99 on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @03:51AM (#19561593)
> If you have listeners you have a responsibility

I've noticed the people who make such claims tend to have horrible politics that need a signal boost. There's a reason why you need to latch onto the success of others and resent those who will not play ball. Have fun with that.

@coldtea: If your ideas are so virtuous, you wouldn't need such fervent help. They're not.

Re:25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds by coldtea on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @03:52AM (#19561599)
>I've noticed the people who make such claims tend to have horrible politics that need a signal boost.

And people who say the above are ok with the established politics, no matter how horrible they are.

Re:25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds by TeMPOraL on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @04:00AM (#19561634)
And people who say that want to guilt-trip the entire civilization into self-destructing.

"Used car salesman meets Jehovah's Witness" approach to talking about issues can work for larger injustices, but doesn't generalize well when everyone wants to air their personal grievances. Pushing a message onto every possible forum isn't going to help much, but is sure as hell going to grow divisions and just tire people out.

Re:25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds by coldtea on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @05:26AM (#19561964)
>And people who say that want to guilt-trip the entire civilization into self-destructing

And people who say that haven't noticed that the "self-destructing" is going quite well by itself, and that some guilt-trip is actually needed to avoid it...

Re:25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds by TeMPOraL on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @05:56AM (#19562094)
No, a lot of this guilt-tripping and politicizing is actually contributing to the self-destruction - it divides people more, makes them less likely to care about each other, and sucks out the oxygen in the media, so that the big problems cannot be discussed productively.
Re:25 Years Later: Interview with Linus Torvalds by coldtea on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @07:12AM (#19562405)
The eras when "big problems [were] discussed productively" (and something was done about them) were the eras when the division was at its highest.

E.g. the division between the civil rights people and those that wanted a segregated society.

Or the division between the anti-war movement in the later sixties and the "patriotic" pro-Vietnam war establishment.

Else, the bipartisan consensus (or small differences) just leads to the incremental management of what's there, and no real initiative for change (e.g. like the last 3+ decades regarding the environment or inequality).