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Re:Boeing delays 737 MAX software fix delivery by GiorgioG on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:25PM (#19557713)
> Saying that something requires training to be operated safely does not mean that it is unsafe.

This ultimately is not a training issue. Why was a system that can potentially plow the aircraft's nose into the ground utilizing only a single sensor without any redundancy in place? Boeing screwed up. Now both sensors will be used. Great, but sometimes 2 sensors fail. If pilots that operate these aircrafts are trusted with the lives of 150+ passengers, they should have an "easy button" to take complete manual control of the aircraft. My human sensors should trump any mechanical sensor(s) when my life is on the line.

Re:Boeing delays 737 MAX software fix delivery by cal5k on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @05:33PM (#19558801)
They do have an "easy button": two highly visible switches right underneath the throttle. Bottom right here where it says "stab trim": http://www.sjap.nl/wp-content/uploads/IMG_0825-e146460235774...

Activating those switches cuts off electric trim and would completely deactivate MCAS. It can be done in seconds.

Re:Boeing delays 737 MAX software fix delivery by omegaworks on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @08:39PM (#19559884)
But can the determination to perform the stab trim cut-off be done in seconds?

Are there other feedback mechanisms present that can interrupt that determination?

That appears to be the case in these scenarios. The MCAS doesn't perform the incorrect action continuously, it looks like initial corrective measures fix the problem until they suddenly don't.

Re:Boeing delays 737 MAX software fix delivery by inferiorhuman on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @12:12AM (#19560660)
Activating those switches cuts off electric trim and would completely deactivate MCAS. It can be done in seconds.

And then what? How much longer will it take to manually move the stabilizer to a suitable position? How much time do the pilots have at under 7,000 ft AGL? Will the elevator have to be moved nose down to unload the stab before the stab can be retrimmed?

Re:Boeing delays 737 MAX software fix delivery by GiorgioG on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @10:34PM (#19560328)
> Activating those switches cuts off electric trim and would completely deactivate MCAS. It can be done in seconds.

That's great...if they'd understood that the system was malfunctioning...but they had no such indication because their airline didn't pay for the optional "feature."