The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks

Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by mhermher on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:56AM (#19555494)

Largely agree, window management on OSX is odd to me. However, you are looking for alt-~ (tilde), which will switch windows of the same application. That was a game changer. Still honestly don't see a reason to have those separated.

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Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by mFixman on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:14PM (#19555697)

The problem is that there is no combined shortcut for both.

Let's say I'm focused on my terminal, and I want to focus on the Firefox window that's besides me. The shortcut is Alt-tab Alt-~, but after doing the first key:

1. All Firefox windows in the current workspace go to the top of my screen

2. If there were no Firefox windows in the current workspace, OSX helpfully moves to the next one.

3. Even after that happens, I need to cycle among all Firefox windows. There's no way to Alt-tab repeatedly between pairs of windows of different applications.

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Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by achompas on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @01:43PM (#19556687)

You're looking for Cmd-Tab, then up/down arrow once you've selected the desired app. This will display a window selector.

Once you pick the a window, it will be foregrounded. Everything else will stay the same.

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Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by achompas on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @04:39PM (#19558350)

Although I see your point - you can't quickly change between App A and a specific window of App B.

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Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by FabHK on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:07PM (#19555605)

I find it much quicker to navigate to the app you want first, then the window you want, than through all open windows (as on Windows).

Think about it, if you have N apps open with M windows each, then on macOS you need at most N+M key presses to reach your desired window, while on Windows you may need up to NM key presses.

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Re:The MacBook keyboard fiasco is way worse than Apple thinks by mFixman on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:17PM (#19555734)

I almost never want to move to an arbitrary window. Most of the time I have 2 or 3 windows which I cycle between.

23 years ago, Windows allowed me to do this in 1 or 2 clicks without looking. Now it's either a lot of clicks and observation or making a mess of my workspace.

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