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Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by james_s_tayler on Monday April 01, 2019 @10:25PM (#19550507)
OKR and Slack are completely different things?

Ones a chat app the other is a system of setting objectives and measuring against those objectives.

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by sandGorgon on Monday April 01, 2019 @10:28PM (#19550520)
Not really - okr are a communication mechanism to communicate goals to a larger org in a distributed way.

Does it still make sense when the org is closer together due to slack

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by russfrank on Monday April 01, 2019 @10:45PM (#19550609)
No, they are completely different things. Real time chat doesn't make people feel like they understand the overall goals of an organization. If someone says in Slack "we really need to get x done because the customers want it" and other people decide to talk about StackOverflow's hilarious April fools day joke for 5 minutes, some are going to miss that "we really need to get x done".

Your OKRs put that sort of thing in one place. The process to determine what the OKRs are ensure that everyone's on the same page about the objectives. People in an organization want to feel like they know what they're working towards. When they don't they get stressed out and unproductive.

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by sandGorgon on Monday April 01, 2019 @11:11PM (#19550735)
I don't fully agree on this notion. Because implicitly doing this is also surfacing the gaps in achieving those targets.

Most okr are dependent on someone else - the Android app guy will not achieve their okr if the API guy is off doing something else. In that way, the whole aspect of goal setting and achieving that is probably more inefficient using an okr structure than thrashing it out on slack (and most likely in a dedicated channel called "planning")

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by russfrank on Monday April 01, 2019 @11:36PM (#19550851)
If you only have six people, maybe :] But we're commenting on a post that's talking about the best time to introduce an OKR process. At my company we don't have an "API guy" and an "Android app guy", we have 30 or so different teams that my team interfaces with in a company with thousands of engineers. We can't just "thrash it out" on Slack at a company of this size.

You need to try and think about what things look like when the company is much, much larger.

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by Jtsummers on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:05AM (#19551006)
OKRs aren’t supposed to directly depend on anyone outside the team or organization. I, personally, can’t fix my contracting office so I can’t set an OKR to improve production rates of our (few) physical products when contracting is always the bottleneck (supplier agreements for materials we need). If we used OKRs, with respect to that element we could only set OKRs that they could achieve on their own (quality, design updates, production rates when they do have material). A couple levels above me are the people who can directly impact the contracting people and set about improving their performance, though.

If you’re setting them and always missing them because of entities with other objectives, then your organization is obviously misaligned and needs to evaluate its goals.

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by titanomachy on Monday April 01, 2019 @11:30PM (#19550824)
OKRs can help solve this problem, if they're done well. Your OKR that depends on the API guy should derive from some common OKR that's owned by a guy up both your reporting chains. You can point at that to help make sure you get unblocked.
Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by NewsAware on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @09:07AM (#19553611)
We use OKRs on a team level with the teams of 6-8 people being cross-functional. So the Android and the API persons would have the same OKRs working towards to.
Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by sockgrant on Monday April 01, 2019 @11:03PM (#19550693)
OKRs are goals.

Slack is a chat app.

You can chat over slack about goals, but slack isn’t goals and goals aren’t a chat app.

Re:OKRs Aren't Going to Fix Your Communication Issues by james_s_tayler on Monday April 01, 2019 @11:38PM (#19550858)
It's more like helping set and monitor goals in a distributed way. It's a framework which to operate in.

You can be on slack or email or around the water-cooler all day long. I don't think that makes that much difference. It's not like as soon as you bring Slack into an organization all this structure emerges that helps you focus your efforts on what to do. Chat app or no chat app, people are always coordinating with each other to complete task-level work.

OKRs help you think first strategically (longer than 1 year) then tactically (between 1 month to 1 year) and then operationally (day to day, week to week). Chat apps don't do that for you.

They just aren't related.