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Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by synaesthesisx on Sunday March 31, 2019 @02:34PM (#19537328)
California could clearly benefit from this. Housing here is treated as a luxury rather than a right. There are plenty on the streets that should arguably be in institutional care.
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by rb808 on Sunday March 31, 2019 @02:59PM (#19537526)
NY is the same, just you'll get moved on if you try to set up camp on the street.
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by Quinner on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:22PM (#19537705)
No, New York mandates that everyone who wants a bed in a shelter gets one. The City does a lot to try to get people into shelters, unfortunately, some people would rather be on the street than in a shelter (some due to mental health issues, some due to concerns about safety in shelters).
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by rb808 on Sunday March 31, 2019 @03:38PM (#19537830)
Any tent or cardboard makeshift sleeping spot will get destroyed if reported. This isn't SF.
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by JasonFruit on Sunday March 31, 2019 @04:12PM (#19538062)
It's regrettable that there are people living on the streets, but whose housing in particular do they have a right to? Or to whose labor to provide them with housing? Is it more just to provide them with housing by coercion, or to make laws and regulations in such a way as to encourage and reward charitable activity? Or is there another way that doesn't require an implicit gun at the givers' heads?
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by chillwaves on Sunday March 31, 2019 @04:38PM (#19538213)
Natural resources are fenced off by society, to great profit of the wealthy class. It's not unreasonable to ask society to provide the bare necessities for the least fortunate.
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by komali2 on Sunday March 31, 2019 @04:39PM (#19538220)
Society doesn't have to be a raw libertarian "paradise" - it's acceptable to say "we should all, together, help house the homeless (with our tax money).
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by devit on Sunday March 31, 2019 @04:41PM (#19538238)
Banning childbirth or immigration if a fully owned home is not owned by the new person.
Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by dane-pgp on Sunday March 31, 2019 @05:36PM (#19538577)
> owned by the new person

You think that unborn children should be required to legally own property before they are allowed to be delivered?

I've heard of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" but this is a new level of absurdity.

Re:Plastic Bags to Be Banned in New York by devit on Monday April 01, 2019 @08:46AM (#19542697)
Yeah, as in parents should commit to donating them a home pre-birth, along with insurance on it and they should not be allowed to sell unless they own another home

Then no one will ever be homeless.

That's the only non-state solution that guarantees this outcome (well, barring major catastrophes that destroy the home and cause the insurance to not be effective at replacing it).