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Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by lisper on Saturday March 30, 2019 @12:36PM (#19530302)
> Copyright act was voted by names

And yet there are ten EU parliament members on the record saying that they voted in favor of the copyright act "by accident":

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/27/18283837/europe-copyright...

So there's clearly something wrong with the procedures.

Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by trickstra on Sunday March 31, 2019 @05:30AM (#19534660)
Those ten MPs are basically saying "Sorry guys, I know I'm highly paid for this job, but I'm so incompetent at it that I can't even keep track of the bill numbers when I'm pressing the button. I was just too busy watching bikini girls on my phone. We are cool, right? Vote for me next time".

I mean siriously, put this job in relation to any other job with the same salary (including all benefits) and see if those people should have the capability and skills to read the bill, remember the number, and react correctly when the number is called even if that happens at a fast pace. If they can't do that, then they shouldn't be sitting there.

Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by jeremyjh on Saturday March 30, 2019 @12:50PM (#19530393)
Sounds like a great way to have your cake and eat it too.
Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by isostatic on Saturday March 30, 2019 @01:13PM (#19530544)
In Westminster the voting system means you have to leave the chamber and go through into another room. Takes about 15 minutes.

You get MPs that vote both yes and no.

People saying they “made a mistake” only say such a thing because they regret it - they’ve probably never had anyone contact them about which way they voted in the past.

Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by IanCal on Saturday March 30, 2019 @01:31PM (#19530636)
I'm not sure how a different chamber votes is all that relevant.

> You get MPs that vote both yes and no.

Do you? I've not heard of many issues with the process apart from things typically hundreds of years ago.

> People saying they “made a mistake” only say such a thing because they regret it

Or because they actually did make a mistake.

Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by jdietrich on Saturday March 30, 2019 @03:28PM (#19531277)
>Do you?

Occasionally, yes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21591602

>I've not heard of many issues with the process apart from things typically hundreds of years ago.

We've had some serious issues recently with pairing. MPs cannot vote in absentia for any reason. The informal process of pairing allows an ill or otherwise unavoidably absent MP to be paired with an opposition MP, who will agree not to vote and so cancel out the absent MP. Brexit has led to a number of broken pairing agreements, which could have seriously undermined the legitimacy of a close vote.

https://theconversation.com/pairing-and-why-it-matters-in-th...

A broader issue is simply the slow pace of voting; a division can take at least 15 minutes, so the vast majority of votes are taken orally in the house without a formal count. There are long-standing concerns about the ability of back-bench MPs to vote with their conscience; MPs physically have to walk past their party whips to enter the lobby, which some argue contributes to a culture of bullying and intimidation.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/15/rumours-of-...

Re:After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legi... by isostatic on Saturday March 30, 2019 @07:39PM (#19532682)
> Do you?

Not since Wednesday

https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/boths.php

> Or because they actually did make a mistake.

700 MEPs managed to vote correctly.