>videos are very engaging, fun and you learn something from it.
This is not an either/or situation. Extremist content can be engaging, fun, and appear to be informative.
However, JRE hosted Alex Jones (conspiracy theorist "mass shooting victoms are crisis actors"), Gavin McInnes (white supremacist), and Milo yiannopolous (conservative provocateur who among other things supports pedophilia in the gay community.
Joe himself I can't comment on. He chooses to promote controversial and actively extreme people though. Sometimes he disagrees with those people, sometimes he doesn't.
One is about extremist content. Extremist content can be interesting. Calling content interesting does not excuse its extremist nature.
There is a parallel conversation specifically about whether JRE is "extremist". The show is certainly interesting. It may also be extremist, but it being interesting doesn't make it not extremist. Because, as I previously stated, calling content interesting does not excuse its extremist nature.
I am not making any conclusions about JRE. I'm only saying that his show being interesting doesn't make it "not extremist". If you're trying to prove that he's not, you've got to do something else.
I also provided some things he has had on his show that probably are extremist content.
I'll keep you company here.
>Joe Rogan went on Infowars today, the same day a man who lost his child in the Sandy Hook shooting committed suicide. The grieving father was among the plaintiffs suing Alex Jones for defamation after smearing the murdered children and their parents as part of a hoax.
>In the same Infowars episode that Joe Rogan appeared on, Alex Jones pushed a conspiracy theory that the father of a child killed at Sandy Hook didn't kill himself, but may have been murdered to silence Jones and end the first amendment.
That Twitter thread is interesting, because it contains a link to a 'This American Life' program that gives a platform to Alex Jones to explain himself. I doubt anyone would call 'This American Life' a platform for spreading conspiracy theories or hate.
In this light, is Joe Rogan, who also allows people like Jones to explain themselves, a moderate or an extremist?
Alex Jones is a wacko. Talking to Alex Jones does not necessarily mean you are also a wacko. This new concept of moral badness transitively propagating through conversation is nonsensical and counterproductive.
> Editor’s note (March 28th 2019): This article has been changed. A previous version mistakenly described Mr Shapiro as an “alt-right sage” and “a pop idol of the alt right”. In fact, he has been strongly critical of the alt-right movement. We apologise.
I'm not in ideological lockstep with them on many topics, but that sort of journalistic integrity is one of the things that distinguishes them from plenty of rags that are purely motivated by partisan ideology.
Journalist integrity would be the economist not lying and smearing someone who they disagree with in the first place. To call an orthodox jew an "alt-right sage" means the people working at the economist are lazy and incompetent or they are liars smearing a jewish individual for ideological reasons. You could follow the thread. You could probably also find the deleted tweets by the economist and their editor too if you want.
https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1111301001359904770
To label a pathetic smear campaign by the economist as "journalistic integrity" just shows the terrible state of journalism today. And the only reason the spineless cowards at the economist apologized is because Ben Shapiro has a big enough following to fight back. Otherwise, they would have stuck to their lies and slander. And I have to disagree with your last statement. The economist is most definitely one of the "rags that are purely motivated by partisan ideology.". But we are all entitled to our own opinions.
The economist is socially moderate-left (mostly socially progressive, but less so on certain issues such as Palestine, and generally not devoting time to fringe opinions at all) but very, very free-market oriented. The closest political orientation to them is "classically liberal", or in US terms, "libertarian", or "moderate Republican".
If this is a ploy to push more mainstream narratives through YouTube that is akin to watching CNN/CBS or ABC, then I'll be looking for other platforms.