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Re:EU to ban plastic plates, cups, and cutlery by 2021 by Pfhreak on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:09PM (#19514229)
What if .5% is the biggest single chunk of plastic use you can eliminate in your sphere of influence? Should you:

a) Do nothing, because it's "only" 0.5%

b) Eliminate 0.5% because it's something you can do.

> It's just virtue signaling and the so-called 'solutions' lower our comfort

Oh, right, I see. Yeah, I mean you'll be comfortable for the next thirty years. Who cares about the next generation, am I right?

Re:EU to ban plastic plates, cups, and cutlery by 2021 by smileypete on Thursday March 28, 2019 @02:33PM (#19515151)
There's a huge problem with unsorted or poor quality recyling or waste electronics being illegally exported from first world countries [1] and ending up in landfills or just dumped in piles, across the world, fix that first, then move on to something else.

Banning tiny amount of single use plastic is low hanging but infinitesimally small fruit however, and the narratives created around it just conveniently distract from much bigger problems.

[1] https://news.sky.com/story/thousands-of-tons-of-uk-plastic-d... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRQLilXLAIU

Re:EU to ban plastic plates, cups, and cutlery by 2021 by Pfhreak on Thursday March 28, 2019 @02:53PM (#19515314)
Why present it as an either or? Why fix one first? Do both.
Re:EU to ban plastic plates, cups, and cutlery by 2021 by smileypete on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:07PM (#19516060)
I'd not be surprised if the tonnage of illegal or substandard waste exported from first world countries is 1,000,000 times greater the tonnage of improperly disposed plastic straws, plates etc etc.

So why are the EU making a huge deal about the latter and not the former? Sorry but it smacks of greenwashing and narratives to me...

Re:EU to ban plastic plates, cups, and cutlery by 2021 by mixedCase on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:16PM (#19514319)
If a given generation is doomed by plastic misuse, going through the big effort that would net in .5% total savings in western countries is hardly going to postpone the calamity to the following generation.