Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe

Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by kerng on Thursday March 28, 2019 @03:10AM (#19509949)

Wondering if Boeing will be able to recover from this in regards to keeping the MAX flying at all. I mean, I will always pick a different plane from now on - just not a risk I'm willing to take in the foreseeable future. Not sure if my stance is common though.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by emiliobumachar on Thursday March 28, 2019 @07:43AM (#19511190)

Do you look up the safety history of all your potential rides, or just focus on recent headlines?

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by kerng on Friday March 29, 2019 @02:38AM (#19519609)

Airplane crashes are rare, and it's quite easy to remember some unique plane crashes (like I would also not fly in a Concorde). With Boeing MAX right now there is definitely some bad decisions they made safety wise, and it be not surprising that there were other tradeoffs made also.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by gthtjtkt on Thursday March 28, 2019 @09:04AM (#19511759)

Why not both? It's not that hard.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by rootusrootus on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:50PM (#19514710)

The real question isn't whether the autists on HN will be researching every flight they schedule, it's how many Average Joes will care. Short answer: to a close approximation, zero.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by tallanvor on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:52AM (#19510427)

At this point no 737 pilot has any excuse not to understand MCAS, including what it does and how to disable it if there's a problem, and will be watching for issues vary closely.

I wouldn't have a problem flying on one.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by isostatic on Thursday March 28, 2019 @06:00AM (#19510721)

> At this point no 737 pilot has any excuse not to understand MCAS

Exactly the same after the Lionair crash.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by gthtjtkt on Thursday March 28, 2019 @09:10AM (#19511786)

So you think the MCAS system is the only deadly surprise the 737 Max has in store?

I'm not comfortable making that assumption, especially after learning more about Boeing's decision-making process and the way they misled the FAA.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by ams6110 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @12:06PM (#19513556)

Remains to be seen but I am sure all the major certification authorities will be asking this now. Probably by the time it's flying again there won't be any need to make assumptions.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by jlangenauer on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:40AM (#19510382)

I will also refuse to fly on one anytime soon.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by Brakenshire on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:19AM (#19510301)

How easy is it for a consumer to make that choice? Is the information surfaced to consumers?

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by kelnos on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:02AM (#19510471)

Many (most?) airlines list the aircraft type during the booking process. Even for those that don't, you can look up the flight number and date on a site like FlightAware or SeatGuru, which will tell you.

But, if the airline needs to, they can swap out the scheduled aircraft for another one at any time up until takeoff. So you might book with the belief that you'll be on a 737 NG, but get to the airport and find (or not even notice) that you're on a 737 MAX.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by codesforhugs on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:06AM (#19510488)

You can see it in most search engines, and after the Ethiopian crash Kayak announced they'll add an aircraft type filter. Other flight search engines will probably follow suit.

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by quickthrower2 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:49AM (#19510412)

Yes, you can find out which plane you are going to fly on. .

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Re:Software Won’t Fix Boeing’s ‘Faulty’ Airframe by lexs on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:27AM (#19510578)

and airlines can change that plane at any time after you booked

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