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Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by Barrin92 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @12:51AM (#19509372)
because you can still benefit from collective bargaining power even if you see yourself as personally superior to your peers.

Not to mention that this is a somewhat terrible attitude to be honest. A lot of 45 year olds might have legitimate disadvantages compared to younger workers. Like say children, health issues, other commitments that keep them from being as flexible as someone in their youth.

So this isn't just an individual issue, it's a collective one. A little bit of looking out for each other rather than treating this like a olympic competition probably wouldn't hurt. And it's probably what got us into this situation to begin with.

Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by scarface74 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @06:06AM (#19510749)
Like say children, health issues, other commitments that keep them from being as flexible as someone in their youth.

As far as family, you can’t have it all. If you decide to prioritize family over your career (which you should), why do you expect to be compensated as well as someone who is willing to put their job first?

While I’m fairly compensated for my location and for what I do, should I complain that consultants make $60K+ a year more than I do because they are willing to do “100% travel” during the week and I’m not until my younger son graduates?

I’ve said twice in this post, I know I have a disadvantage over other developers - I have a disability that only allows me to type with one hand. There are legal protections sure, but those are easy for a company to get around. I am use to having to be more competitive.

But there is a difference between being competitive getting a job - if I fill a position that means someone else didn’t get that position. But, I refuse to waste time playing politics and getting ahead at a job at the expense of someone else.

Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by luckydata on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:35PM (#19514524)
It's so sad that years of brainwashing made you think this pile of bullshit. The way we organize society and the economy IS UP TO US, to find a model that serves our happiness and fulfillment as humans, not the other way around.

It saddens me that so many of us are willing slaves to a dehumanizing system of oppression.

Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by scarface74 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @03:04PM (#19515431)
Yes. I find happiness going to work at 8 and getting off at 5 and having someone else worry about finding clients, funding,customers and getting the same amount in my check every week.

Some other people find happiness from starting a business where there is a lot of uncertainty, risk and they have to put in long hours.

Some other people find happiness of making more money and accepting the trade off of traveling during the week.

So what part of me going into an office every day getting paid doing the same thing I did as a hobby 30 years ago in my bedroom on my Apple //e and coming home to my family in my house in the burbs is dehumanizing?

If you are a software developer in almost any major city in the US, on average your income is more than 80% of the population.

Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by dodobirdlord on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:10AM (#19509440)
I'd value a strong professional association, and I would even pay meaningful dues to it, but I don't want a union. I'd like to be part of an organization that can keep a staff of lawyers around to review contracts and have an official policy on what clauses are acceptable and what aren't acceptable, what to expect in terms of intellectual property ownership, working hours, etc. Having a cadre of lawyers around to protest discriminatory hiring and firing practices would also be great. But having quotas, or formal seniority, or having said organization have a seat at the table during hiring and firing discussions or salary decisions sounds like a total disaster.

Perhaps what I want is a guild? Maybe a licensing board? Professional association seems like the best terminology, but I want a professional association with some teeth.

Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by luckydata on Thursday March 28, 2019 @02:58AM (#19509897)
That's called a union.
Re:IBM purged ‘gray hairs’ and ‘old heads’ as it launched Mi... by krageon on Thursday March 28, 2019 @09:37AM (#19512031)
You've described a union and said that you hate the things which are not necessarily something a union does. So you want a union that works well for you. I think that sounds reasonable.