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Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by amalcon on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @09:46PM (#19508348)
From the release:

> Our own review of hate figures and organizations – as defined by our Dangerous Individuals & Organizations policy – further revealed the overlap between white nationalism and separatism and white supremacy.

It doesn't appear that this content is being banned because Facebook surrogates find the politics in question abhorrent (though they likely do so find). It is being banned because it is acting as part of a recruitment funnel for an ideology that openly advocates violence. They collected evidence of this before acting.

The line is somewhat blurry, but it does exist. On one side, we have a sensible use of editorial discretion; on the other, we have censorship. Is Facebook going to cross the line at some point? Almost certainly. Basically every individual or entity to have editorial discretion has both made mistakes and abused that power.

It remains to be seen to what extent that will happen here. If anything, they've erred on the side of permissiveness so far (e.g. how long it took to ban ISIS). If that changes, we should call them out at that time.

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by int_19h on Thursday March 28, 2019 @01:44AM (#19509585)
> It is being banned because it is acting as part of a recruitment funnel for an ideology that openly advocates violence.

That would be believable, if it was applied as such across the board - e.g. also removing Christian Dominionists, Stalinists, Salafi Muslims, NoI etc.

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by nl on Thursday March 28, 2019 @04:58AM (#19510456)
Facebook already deplatforms radical Islamic preachers on a regular basis.

I doubt that have enough data to show the links for the other groups.

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by cannedslime on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:57AM (#19510703)
Are you sure about that? Try searching for "الموت للغرب" on facebook (Death to the west)
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by nl on Thursday March 28, 2019 @06:20PM (#19517204)
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by int_19h on Thursday March 28, 2019 @06:42PM (#19517391)
This is "terror content" though, not the ideology behind it. I tried looking around, and there are plenty of pages preaching the ideology. It sounds like they're okay so long as they don't directly call for violence, showcase violence (execution videos etc), or try to recruit for either of those, even though the end goals are inherently violent. Most white supremacist content is similar in that regard.
Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by nl on Thursday March 28, 2019 @07:00PM (#19517502)
I'd note that "Death to the West" has a very mixed set of meanings.

Often is isn't meant as a threat, but instead is a political statement calling for the end to the hegemony of the West. However, sometimes it is meant as hate speech (often when associated with calls for the destruction of Israel).

Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by laughinghan on Thursday March 28, 2019 @03:54AM (#19510192)
I don't know about Salafi Muslims specifically, but Facebook already does censor radical Islamist groups like ISIS. This move is trying to be more across-the-board by including white supremacy under more of its aliases.

As for the others--when's the last time a Stalinist drove a car into a crowd or committed a mass shooting?

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Re:Facebook to ban white nationalist content by nl on Thursday March 28, 2019 @05:04AM (#19510481)
The argument being pushed here (whether they themselves understand it or not) is basically that "seeing something a little bit to the right > leads a little more to the right > then even more to the right > NAZI!"

But it's not at all! Viewing racism as a left/right thing is wrong altogether. While it isn't obvious in US politics today, the left has often had a problem with race too.

Racism should be abhorrent to both left and right, and that should be independent of immigration views.

Which hilariously is a concept born almost exclusively out of modern leftist and current "_blank_ studies" thought/ideology.

Well actually Facebook has data showing this, so I don't think that's correct.