Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Aaargh20318 on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:10AM
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The root cause seems to be the same as with most of humanity's problems: overpopulation.
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Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by temp129838 on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:13AM
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You either do not live in the Bay Area or you are wildly misinformed. The Bay Area's housing crisis is caused by a mix of bad zoning laws and rampant NIMBYism that has blocked enough housing construction to keep up with population growth. It has nothing to do with overpopulation.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Aaargh20318 on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:25AM
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> The Bay Area's housing crisis is caused by a mix of bad zoning laws and rampant NIMBYism that has blocked enough housing construction to keep up with population growth.
There shouldn't be any population growth to keep up with. The problem is too many people on too little space. Not sure why people seem to want to live in cities that resemble ant-hills if it's shown that it makes them miserable and depressed.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by maze-le on Monday March 25, 2019 @12:07PM
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The number of people I know in suburban settings and inner city settings are fairly equally miserable and depressed though. I kinda don't buy that suburbia makes a happy-life theme...
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Aaargh20318 on Monday March 25, 2019 @12:42PM
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I’m not talking about suburbs, if you’re able to walk to a neighbours house within a day, it’s too crowded.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Scuds on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:28AM
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Seattle has smaller scale of the same problems combined with the same resistance to upzoning and "changing the character of the neighborhood".
They bought a house on a sleepy street of Capitol Hill in 1996 and somehow expect to be insulated from any change when twenty years later Amazon dumps a few billion into office space a thirty minute walk away.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by sverige on Monday March 25, 2019 @12:23PM
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By 1996, price inflation for housing in Seattle was in full force, as was NIMBYism. It was unaffordable enough by '92 that I got out then. I have friends who bought around that time and were paying what I considered to be ridiculous prices. I don't blame them for wanting to preserve it. They didn't ask Amazon to start there.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by jefftk on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:14AM
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There aren't too many people, just not enough housing. If we allowed denser housing, especially near where people work, we could bring down housing costs massively while reducing commutes.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Aaargh20318 on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:25AM
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> If we allowed denser housing, especially near where people work, we could bring down housing costs massively while reducing commutes.
And still be absolutely miserable. Dense housing it part of the problem, humans need space, and lots of it.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by gcb0 on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:12AM
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lol. if the bay area population was even close to a tipping point, humanity would be gone by a long time now. there are million of places with more population density and happier people.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Aaargh20318 on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:23AM
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I'm talking global population, not local. If we reduce the global population (by strict birth control) by a factor 1000, I bet you won't see any of these problems.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by hindsightRegret on Monday March 25, 2019 @11:28AM
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This is a local problem, not a global problem. I fail to see how reducing population in Tokyo, Japan would solve a housing crisis that exists in San Francisco...
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by Aaargh20318 on Monday March 25, 2019 @12:43PM
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Reduce the population by a factor 1000, then evenly spread out the human population over the habitable areas.
Also, it is a local solution, if SF had 1000 times fewer people current problems wouldn’t exist either.
Re:Is the Bay Area pushing people to the breaking point?
by christopher8827 on Monday March 25, 2019 @04:50PM
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Thanos?