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Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by marcus_holmes on Saturday March 23, 2019 @10:01PM (#19473652)
Why? because Australia and NZ have large immigrant populations (in fact, are large immigrant populations) that contain many races. Racial disharmony causes huge problems, and creates the real possibility of violence, mayhem and bloodshed. As reasonable societies, these things are seen as bad and to be avoided. Consequently, actions that will create racial disharmony are illegal.

You can hate on whoever you like, but you can't grab a megaphone, head down to the mall, and encourage other people to hate the same people that you do. I don't know about you, but that seems like a pretty benign restriction to me...

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by oska on Saturday March 23, 2019 @11:06PM (#19473957)
> but you can't grab a megaphone, head down to the mall, and encourage other people to hate the same people that you do

Your example is a misdirection. What you describe is being a public nuisance in a public area, not free speech. I don't want to be subjected to nasty, racist rhetoric in a public space, just as I don't want to be harangued to repent of my sins and "Let Jesus into my life" in the same place. But I support the right of people to be able to express these views in a published form, or in closed spaces such as on a talking tour or in a church. In both cases audiences are seeking to be exposed to these views and are actively going to a place to find them, not having them pushed on them as they go about their ordinary lives.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by leesalminen on Sunday March 24, 2019 @12:54AM (#19474414)
> In both cases audiences are seeking to be exposed to these views

If people only hear what they want to hear then issues will never be resolved. It’s necessary to hear things sometimes, even if it’s personally revolting or bothersome. Everyone has to deal with annoying people in life and laws won’t fix it.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by gruez on Saturday March 23, 2019 @11:54PM (#19474183)
>You can hate on whoever you like, but you can't grab a megaphone, head down to the mall, and encourage other people to hate the same people that you do. I don't know about you, but that seems like a pretty benign restriction to me...

Where do you draw the line? All of the items in this list (going from least inflammatory to most) could possibly be construed as causing "racial disharmony":

"We shouldn't give special benefits to [minority group] (eg. affirmative action)"

"[minority group] commit x% more crime than the rest of the population" (factual)

"I personally don't like [minority group]"

"We should enact legislation that specifically penalize [minority group]"

"I wish [minority group] would die/get hurt"

"We need to kill/hurt [minority group]"

"Let's go kill/hurt [minority group]"

For reference, the US criteria is somewhere between the last two (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_and_present_danger).

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by scruple on Sunday March 24, 2019 @12:36AM (#19474344)
NZ has a large immigrant population? Compared to what, exactly? The country has 5 million people. The _county_ that I live in has (damn near) that many people.