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Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by mnm1 on Saturday March 23, 2019 @09:59PM (#19473644)
So just like after 9/11 in the US, the terrorists win. They scare the powers that be into making life worse for an entire country's citizens. I guess people never learn from history. Both corporations and the government end up doing the terrorists' bidding while thinking they are protecting people. The people have no say. I bet the shooters are laughing from their cells just like al quada did from its caves. Terrorism all around. I'm sure this is just the beginning just like 9/11 was just the beginning of a terror campaign mostly waged by our own government here in the US.
Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by ElCapitanMarkla on Sunday March 24, 2019 @12:29AM (#19474318)
Why do you say life is worse here?

We’ve banned most semi auto guns.

And his writing and video have been classed as objectionable...

Why’s my life worse off for the governments actions?

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by identity-haver on Sunday March 24, 2019 @04:35AM (#19475183)
For one, your ability to defend your self and your family has been partially abrogated. Now it depends more on physical strength and the wealth to live in a safe area with other defenses.

Second, your ability to access the internet has been shown to be arbitrarily limitable, kind of like China's great firewall.

Third, your ability to speak and communicate about political issues has been tamped. Today it's possessing somebody else's anti-Muslim manifesto that gets you 10 years, tomorrow it's an anti-party manifesto. Let me take a look through all your private messages and documents, and believe me, I will find something that I can "class as objectionable".

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by ElCapitanMarkla on Sunday March 24, 2019 @05:18PM (#19478835)
NZer's weren't stock piling guns to defend themselves with so your first argument just isn't valid to begin with.

This isn't a government ordered blocking. NZ does have a govt blacklist but it isn't enforced, ISP's opt into it. My ISP didn't block anything.

No one needs to read that manifesto to debate far right fascism.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by CompanionCuuube on Monday March 25, 2019 @02:27PM (#19485249)
One is not a stockpile under any reasonable definition.

Your government doesn't allow the ownership of guns for self-defense but so far it doesn't outright prohibit them from being used that way.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by ElCapitanMarkla on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @05:40AM (#19499293)
You are correct. To quote the arms code - https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/... (page 41)

"Citizens are justified in using force in self-defence in certain situations. The force that is justified will depend on the circumstances of the particular case. Every person is criminally responsible for any excessive use of force against another person.

A firearm is a lethal weapon. To justify the discharge of a firearm at another person the user must hold a honest belief that they or someone else is at imminent threat of death or grievous bodily harm.

Discharge of a firearm at another person will result in a Police investigation and what ever the consequences of the incident you may face serious criminal charges."

It's worth keeping in mind that we still have guns, it's just a certain type of gun that's getting banned. And it's worked well in Aus so far.

Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by CompanionCuuube on Wednesday March 27, 2019 @02:02PM (#19503915)
Certain types of gun. It's not just one type being banned.
Re:ISPs in AU and NZ start censoring the internet without le... by sarcasmOrTears on Saturday March 23, 2019 @11:27PM (#19474053)
He evn wrote in the manifesto that the current nz goverment reaction was what he wanted.