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Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by Twirrim on Friday March 22, 2019 @08:05PM (#19468092)
> Why do you think Oracle has a chance at cloud? Honest question.

Because Oracle still has an extremely large customer base, and an exceptionally good and extensive sales organisation that's really good at selling stuff to people.

The enterprise market is still not that well tapped by existing cloud providers. Look at the kinds of sales figures enterprise serving companies pull in, and consider that only a smaller fraction of them have moved to the cloud.

Anecdote: When OCI was announced ("Oracle Bare Metal Cloud") about 2 1/2 years ago, the staff who were there launching it at the Oracle conference had CIOs and the like coming up to them, even then, saying "So what really is this 'cloud' thing"

> I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future.

Succeed or fail, it's still interesting work. It pays well. Flexible on hours. Good co-workers, good sense of direction. Lots of interesting problems to solve. None of the bullshit "work everyone to the bone" that I kept seeing in AWS. Good opportunities to make a difference.

In all honesty, I was burned out at AWS and thought "Well.. I've put up with absolute hell in prior tech jobs, and have built up a reasonable resume. I can always move on if it turns out to be hell". My expectations were pretty low. I knew the director I was going to be working for, having worked with him in AWS, and knew he actually gave a damn about operations. It turns out to have been one of the better career decisions I've made. Which is definitely not anything I would have associated with a job working for Oracle.

Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by milemi on Friday March 22, 2019 @10:46PM (#19468744)
I feel so old because to me OCI means Oracle Call Interface, their DB client C API. I guess nobody cares that it may confuse people like me.
Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by gautamdivgi on Saturday March 23, 2019 @12:21AM (#19469050)
Oh wow... finally another person who has used it. I remember writing a C++ class library to wrap base OCI functions about 15 years ago.
Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by milemi on Saturday March 23, 2019 @05:58PM (#19472567)
No need to do that anymore because they now have their own C++ api, and it's called ... OCCI!
Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by Twirrim on Saturday March 23, 2019 @01:01AM (#19469138)
Yeah, that's one that keeps popping up over and over again, especially in google searches.
Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by barbecue_sauce on Saturday March 23, 2019 @12:34AM (#19469078)
To me it means "Open Container Initiative".
Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by jacques_chester on Friday March 22, 2019 @11:07PM (#19468814)
Microsoft has a good and extensive sales organisation too. AWS has a massive head start. VMWare have a pretty solid lock in on-prem. And while all three have pissed in their customer's wells, none of them has poisoned customer wells quite so consistently and thoroughly as Oracle has for the past few decades.
Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by inertiatic on Friday March 22, 2019 @08:31PM (#19468216)
Honestly as an individual contributor not holding any stock, what more can you ask for?

Whether the company's long term plan pans our or not is mostly irrelevant to whether you're able to do your best work.

Re:Oracle Swings the Layoff Axe by sidcool on Saturday March 23, 2019 @05:09AM (#19469696)
So you are saying there were CIOs in 2017 that had no idea what cloud is?