Re:Women: Learn to Program This Summer
by DoreenMichele on Friday March 22, 2019 @07:48PM
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Your comment history suggests that any good faith attempt to engage with you will most likely be futile.
It would be nice if more people would make an effort to engage me in good faith rather than blame me for my lack of traction.
I'm quite confident that I have gotten whatever traction I do have due to being very reasonable in the face of a mountain of crazy-making BS.
It winds up being a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation.
For the record, in response to my comments here today, someone emailed me privately to offer an hour of their time this weekend to discuss my desire to learn to code. Hopefully that's a sign of better things to come.
I'm noting it to say there are, in fact, options beyond refusing to engage me or blaming me (or other women, people of color, etc). I'm stating it for the benefit of anyone wondering what they can do about such issues.
I'm very well aware that it's difficult to engage someone who is angry and complaining. But not pointing out the barriers to participation also doesn't foment change.
I wish it worked to just show up and participate as if my gender was irrelevant. But the truth is I did that initially and the result was souch push back, I went digging to figure out why. And that's the reason I know I'm "prominent" for a woman here. Because I was making waves and it was coming back to bite me at a time when I was nowhere near having enough karma for the leaderboard.
I would love to have zero reason to bitch about sexism on HN. It was never anything I wanted to talk about. I just wanted to participate in conversation and learn to code and further my projects, just like the guys here do. And that proved impossible.
It would be nice if more people would make an effort to engage me in good faith rather than blame me for my lack of traction.
I'm quite confident that I have gotten whatever traction I do have due to being very reasonable in the face of a mountain of crazy-making BS.
It winds up being a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation.
For the record, in response to my comments here today, someone emailed me privately to offer an hour of their time this weekend to discuss my desire to learn to code. Hopefully that's a sign of better things to come.
I'm noting it to say there are, in fact, options beyond refusing to engage me or blaming me (or other women, people of color, etc). I'm stating it for the benefit of anyone wondering what they can do about such issues.
I'm very well aware that it's difficult to engage someone who is angry and complaining. But not pointing out the barriers to participation also doesn't foment change.
I wish it worked to just show up and participate as if my gender was irrelevant. But the truth is I did that initially and the result was souch push back, I went digging to figure out why. And that's the reason I know I'm "prominent" for a woman here. Because I was making waves and it was coming back to bite me at a time when I was nowhere near having enough karma for the leaderboard.
I would love to have zero reason to bitch about sexism on HN. It was never anything I wanted to talk about. I just wanted to participate in conversation and learn to code and further my projects, just like the guys here do. And that proved impossible.