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Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by chrisseaton on Friday March 22, 2019 @04:51AM (#19460606)
I don't think anyone else is idolising this kind of toxic behaviour. You're the one calling it 'genius'! I think it's an absolutely terrible way to speak to people and I hope I never have to interact with him to get something done in my job. I don't know how a professional person can be happy with knowing there are people who would avoid them like that.
Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by coldtea on Friday March 22, 2019 @05:01AM (#19460652)
>I don't know how a professional person can be happy with knowing there are people who would avoid them like that.

Well, they know there are hundreds of millions of others who use their work, thousands who worked with them, and a trillion dollar industry built on their labor and effort, and that they have spoken their mind, with no BS, and no fake niceties like it's the norm.

I guess they can always take comfort in that.

Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by chrisseaton on Friday March 22, 2019 @05:02AM (#19460663)
They must be different to me - I'd feel really bad if I knew the way I spoke to people made them not want to talk to me.
Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by coldtea on Friday March 22, 2019 @05:09AM (#19460699)
Some don't want to be people pleasers in general. They'd rather break bridges that censor themselves and be less blunt.

Others don't want certain kinds of people to "want to talk to them" in the first place, so they are non-polite towards their kind on purpose.

And a final similar case is wanting people to talk to you only if they can stand that level of discussion/no BS talk/bluntness/sense of humor/profanity/etc. So that you can be yourself among them, and they can be themselves with you, with no facades.

Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by enriquto on Friday March 22, 2019 @05:17AM (#19460743)
> I think it's an absolutely terrible way to speak to people

I, for one, pretty much prefer being spoken to that way, instead of a sanitized corporate newspeak that means exactly the same thing but uses "professional" words.

Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by ben509 on Friday March 22, 2019 @11:36AM (#19463572)
I agree. Corporate speak is the worst combination of ass-covering and abdication of responsibility.

I think people mean well when they talk about empathy and kindness, but those concepts assume that the only reality is how we feel and speak about things, when generally it's the underlying reality that is painful or harsh. And when you have to deliver a product, you can't avoid that reality.

I try to address it by frequently talking about my own fuckups and thus making it easier for junior devs to understand that failing is something we all go through.

But nothing can change the fact that it hurts to invest deeply in something and see it fail. We can't make pain go away, so it's better to just get it over with and learn to adapt to it and be resilient.

Re:I Don't Like Debuggers (2000) by chrisseaton on Friday March 22, 2019 @05:24AM (#19460777)
I don't think there's anything specifically corporate about it. I wouldn't speak to people like this socially either.