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Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by balls187 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @02:15PM (#19455531)
> Software developers want to have their cake and eat it too (power and respect with no oversight and governance).

This doesn't come from software developers.

This comes from the SV culture of "move fast and break things."

Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by toomuchtodo on Thursday March 21, 2019 @02:25PM (#19455658)
I painted too broad strokes. I agree, and admit my mistake.
Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by mfoy_ on Thursday March 21, 2019 @03:53PM (#19456541)
Just replace "software developer" with "self-proclaimed software engineer" in your comment and you'd be spot-on.
Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by balls187 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:15PM (#19456785)
Nothing about engineering really covers security best principles and practices.

I went through classical engineering school, and I'd summarize with three categories:

* Newtonian Physics & The Mathematics Behind It (i.e. Differential Equations)

* Ethics

* Technical Communications

Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by mfoy_ on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:48PM (#19457156)
That's because there is no software engineering program, and other engineering programs don't deal with "security" per se.
Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by balls187 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:26PM (#19458660)
My alma mater offers a degree in Software Engineering.
Re:Facebook Stored Hundreds of Millions of User Passwords in... by jammygit on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:08PM (#19458858)
I think that was actually invented at Facebook in the early days, unless I'm mistaken. Its a good mantra unless its security related