Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning

Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by ericsoderstrom on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:17PM (#19454059)

I don't see a huge difference between the two. Mostly the Ferengi forehead creases are sharper I guess, but unclear that the overall effect is much of an improvement. Cool proof of concept though!

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by rhacker on Thursday March 21, 2019 @01:33PM (#19455026)

Definitely make sure you switch YouTube's AUTO setting from whatever default it has to 1080P. For a lot of scenes there is a HUGE difference.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by devrod on Thursday March 21, 2019 @03:18PM (#19456246)

Thanks for this, I also didn't think they looked any different.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by __david__ on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:57PM (#19454557)

Yeah I made sure the video was in 1080p mode and it was mostly subtle at best. Not only that there were several places where it wasn't subtle, but the up-rezzed faces had a super fake photo-retouched/cgi look to them. They had crossed the uncanny-valley and didn't look like real humans.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by eropple on Thursday March 21, 2019 @02:33PM (#19455775)

I thought that faces were mostly fine. The spots that didn't look right, to me, were when there was a face out-of-focus in the front of the frame (the bit where Sisko's talking to that dude). I wonder if the network recognized it was "supposed" to be out-of-focus, which it is, but then wasn't able to do any edge cleanup to make it more consistent.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by Sargos on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:38PM (#19457622)

> didn't look like real humans

Deep Space Nine. Mission succeeded?

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by izzydata on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:22PM (#19454121)

You need to have both full screened on a 1080p screen to actually compare the two. Also video quality is difficult to determine from still frames. Video compression is more about how it moves from 1 frame to another. You would want to watch an actual clip of both to see the difference better.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by ericsoderstrom on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:36PM (#19454288)

Yeah that's probably it. Was wondering whether half a screen of 1080p would be enough to properly show the difference

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by NedIsakoff on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:25PM (#19454153)

I honestly really don't see the difference beyond that.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by eropple on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:39PM (#19454334)

A lot of the CG (ships, etc.) looks sharper to my eye. I didn't notice at first, though, because YouTube defaulted to 720p (and since it's a 1080p render downscaled to be side-by-side, you do need those pixels).

The creator says that 4K-vs-480p renders (that is, rendering the YouTube video at 4K) are on the way.

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by QuackingJimbo on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:04PM (#19458546)

Same. It's certainly not objectively "amazing" (to use the author's own verbiage)

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by onli on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:23PM (#19454128)

What? Everything is sharper in the 1080p version, the effect is far from subtle. Is it possible you did not load the 1080p version of the Youtube video?

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Re:Remastering Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with Machine Learning by kartickv on Friday March 22, 2019 @01:30AM (#19459863)

I agree. Resolution is 1% of what makes a TV serial. 99% is storytelling, the setting, character, drama, emotion, and so on.

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