I agree, but don't understand how this connects to our conversation. All I mean is that there are many interesting and profound states that one can achieve through meditation (or other means), the vast majority of which are not nirvana -- though they may seem to share some surface similarities when described in rough English.

Agreed, sorry, I wasn't meaning to appear to disagree with your statement, rather more suggesting that feelings don't tend to care about any intentional outcome, only what is.