Re:Devops needs to be a two way street devs and ops
by thwarted on Friday November 26, 2010 @01:24PM
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Except that that isn't currently a long view position.
I'm not so sure that comparing systems and operations to wiring up your own phone service or plumbing is appropriate. Those are home, consumer level concerns, but businesses would be wise to have someone on staff, dedicated to understanding their exact needs, rather than attempting to outsource everything, especially during rapid growth. You still need systems experience to know, for example, which of EC2, Softlayer, Media Temple, Engine Yard, or Linode is appropriate, and how to interpret their offerings.
Even in 10 years, someone who knows both is going to be more valuable than someone who knows just one. Devops is a different kind of specialization that is actually multidisciplinary.
We already have outsourced systems/operations work available as a purchasable service, it's called "Managed Services". Datacenter providers have been trying to upsell to it for years. I used to do managed services at various datacenters, and we all knew we weren't very effective because there was never enough time or money (from the client) to spend on truly understanding their needs.
I'm not so sure that comparing systems and operations to wiring up your own phone service or plumbing is appropriate. Those are home, consumer level concerns, but businesses would be wise to have someone on staff, dedicated to understanding their exact needs, rather than attempting to outsource everything, especially during rapid growth. You still need systems experience to know, for example, which of EC2, Softlayer, Media Temple, Engine Yard, or Linode is appropriate, and how to interpret their offerings.
Even in 10 years, someone who knows both is going to be more valuable than someone who knows just one. Devops is a different kind of specialization that is actually multidisciplinary.
We already have outsourced systems/operations work available as a purchasable service, it's called "Managed Services". Datacenter providers have been trying to upsell to it for years. I used to do managed services at various datacenters, and we all knew we weren't very effective because there was never enough time or money (from the client) to spend on truly understanding their needs.