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Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by chrisseaton on Sunday March 17, 2019 @09:24PM (#19417996)
> I think you mean Object#send?

It's definitely Kernel#send. Object defines no instance methods at all.

    > Kernel.instance_methods(false).include?(:send)
    => true
    > Object.instance_methods(false).include?(:send)
    => false
    > Object.instance_methods(false)
    => []
https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/v2_6_2/vm_eval.c#L2163
Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by inopinatus on Sunday March 17, 2019 @09:33PM (#19418042)
Fascinating, the docs are misleading on this point. http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.6.2/Object.html#method-i-send because Object includes Kernel and it's just easier to find, I guess.

That's a somewhat arcane implementation detail though. What about the meat of the discussion?

Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by chrisseaton on Sunday March 17, 2019 @09:36PM (#19418057)
I don't think Ruby is message passing either because the caller determines which method to call, based on the object's method table. #method_missing is just another method to be called by the caller - it isn't an example of the object being able to determine what happens. I think #send is really #call, but I think the name implies someone somewhere thought it was message passing.

If I'm being uncharitable I think applying the term 'message passing' to Ruby is a bit of making something sound more sophisticated and elaborate than it is. They're method calls - it's pretty simple already and doesn't need a complex concept on top of that.

Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by inopinatus on Sunday March 17, 2019 @09:51PM (#19418119)
It merely remains to fork and/or invent a language that otherwise looks almost exactly like Ruby but with message passing only.
Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by macintux on Sunday March 17, 2019 @09:53PM (#19418132)
Elixir?
Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by chrisseaton on Sunday March 17, 2019 @10:06PM (#19418187)
Elixir has conventional method calls by default, and only optional message passing with a separate syntax. It's definitely not message passing everywhere.
Re:Alan Kay on the Meaning of “Object-Oriented Programming” ... by macintux on Monday March 18, 2019 @09:48AM (#19420947)
It’s message passing everywhere outside the current object (process).

It’s a little tough to compare to an OO language because there are no classes, but all object to object communications are asynchronous messages.