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Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by CharlesW on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:12PM (#19394838)
> For all of us, Facebook is definitely a good thing.

And also a bad thing, is a major theme of the parent comment you replied to.

"Lie" is a stark word for what Zuck is doing, but it's not wrong assuming he understands the dark side of his monster. But he also may not know if he's actively deluding himself, and eliminating everyone around him that doesn't support that pretend worldview.

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by rhizome on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:18PM (#19394879)
"Evil, or insane?" is a dilemma with a poor history. Once you descend to that standard it's better just to throw the whole thing out and start over. They can't get themselves out of this situation with the same brains that got them into it.
Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by mirimir on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:39PM (#19395025)
As much as I distrust his motives, there is this in TFA:

> Now, Mr. Zuckerberg is barreling ahead with his shift to focus Facebook on private messaging and away from public broadcasting, even if it means shedding some of his top lieutenants.

That sounds a lot like "understand[ing] the dark side of his monster". Maybe an extreme overreaction, it's true. But a clear acknowledgment that "sharing will make the world a better place" is rather too idealistic.

Edit: spelling

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by habeebtc on Friday March 15, 2019 @12:30AM (#19396565)
Wasn't it the culture he built which led to the many iterations of permissions which were intentionally confusing in order to get you to share everything more publicly than you thought you were?

See: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/34825225/ns/technology_and_science...

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by mirimir on Friday March 15, 2019 @12:55AM (#19396696)
Yes, I think so too. But it sounds like he's renounced that. And of course, it could be bullshit to deflect criticism.

Even so, I've done lots of work with est / Landmark Education, and some with Lifespring, Tony Robbins and NLP. So I'm familiar with concepts of building relationships with family and friends, and broader social networking and community building. And a major aspect of that it honesty and open sharing, both 1:1 and in groups. it helps us see how much we're all the same, and builds empathy and love.

So when he talks about social hacking through sharing and strengthening relationships, I hear it through those filters. But I also hear his cynical comments about oversharing fools that sucks into Facebook.

so anyway, I'm curious where this will go. Facebook now allows signups via Tor, apparently with no texted authentication. And if he creates a privacy-frirndly version that emphasiuzes P2P communuication, that woutld be very cool.

Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by disgruntledphd2 on Friday March 15, 2019 @03:35AM (#19397442)
Just as an FYI, Facebook have allowed signups through Tor for about 4-5 years now.
Re:Facebook Loses Top Executives, Including Chris Cox by mirimir on Friday March 15, 2019 @10:56PM (#19406126)
Yes, true. I've tested, but never actually used it. Because I never had a use for it. So I wonder if it eventually demands voice or text authentication.

Anyone know?