I read the transcripts of Haspel's torture sessions. They read like an episode of "24". These are dumb, violent people with an exaggerated sense of their own heroic virtue. Par for the course.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/intelligence-torture...

Certainly possible, but this seems out of character for even that "explanation".

In all fairness, if you think you know what a CIA operation looks like then you probably don't.

I don't think that means anything.

If the CIA or anyone was armed with fake guns breaking into embassies and trying to extract information by force regularly ... we'd hear about it.

Please describe to me what you think corresponds to a typical and oh so recognizable CIA operation so we can all easily pin it back on them next time they make a move

> Please describe to me what you think corresponds to a typical and oh so recognizable CIA operation so we can all easily pin it back on them next time they make a move

Something slower, more covert, and less out of a blockbuster spy movie. More John Le Carré and less James Bond.

Not this event that appears to be fairly unique. Simply by being unique that would mean it's nobody's typical operation.

It was roughly coincident in time (one week prior) with the US-NK denuclearization summit.

To me that makes it sound even less like a CIA operation.

What is it you imagine CIA operations are like? The CIA has a long history of incompetence e.g.:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/15/botched-cia-communicati...

Some have claimed that their secrecy is less about national security, and more about job security. If the public knew their mistakes, they would have been disbanded a long time ago (although similar claims have been made about the UK's SIS).

> What is it you imagine CIA operations are like? The CIA has a long history of incompetence e.g.:

> https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/15/botched-cia-communicati...

Are you serious? That example is a far cry from acting like a bunch of incompetent bank robbers, like whoever conducted this present attack on the NK embassy.

I feel like you're talking about your impression of the CIA and that somehow makes you think that this fairly unprecedented and odd event .... somehow must be them.

I can't convince you otherwise, or even explain my own POV, if you have some strong belief that this must be them, even without much of any evidence.

I also don't think people care like you think they care.

> somehow must be them.

That wasn't something I said.

> if you have some strong belief that this must be them

Literally never said nor implied that.

> I also don't think people care like you think they care.

I don't know what this is in response to.

Did you reply to the wrong post?