Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage

Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by rvanmil on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:07AM (#19388132)

When will HN learn that convenience beats security every single time? All posts that mention Telegram get the same tiring comments about security and they're all utterly pointless and preaching to the choir. Yes, we know there are more secure messenger apps out there, thanks. But unless they offer at least the same convenience as Telegram does, no one will use them except you and some of your tech friends. If you want security and privacy to become mainstream, simply make it a boring, invisible implementation detail of your messenging platform which is superior in convenience.

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Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by ta2223332221 on Thursday March 14, 2019 @08:15AM (#19388500)

If you want security and privacy to become mainstream, simply make it a boring, invisible implementation detail of your messenging platform which is superior in convenience

I believe that is precisely Signal's philosophy. Which is why for example it uses/requires a phone number instead of a username - which then people also complain about on HN and elsewhere. That it's less convenient than other messengers (which I don't dispute) is not for the lack of trying.

So I suspect the answer is the loudest users/commenters will "never" learn this.

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Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by Krasnol on Thursday March 14, 2019 @12:42PM (#19390920)

> no one will use them except you and some of your tech friends.

This goes the other way around just as well.

No one will use them except you and some of your edgy young friends.

I mean...seriously...I don't see my mother using "custom made stickers" nor my wife or my co-workers who are not "tech". They are just older and need to send text and a picture from time to time.

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Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by botto on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:11AM (#19388152)

Keybase is very convenient, same features and is based on known standards and has arguably as good a UX as telegram.

Why isn't that used more?

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Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by HHalvi on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:17AM (#19388192)

I hate the hassle of setting up Keybase on Mobile andDesktop so i have never bothered about it till now.

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Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by vonseel on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:10PM (#19391223)

Hassle? It’s incredibly straightforward. Maybe 2 steps to login to an account on iOS that already exists on desktop (preferences add devise, scan QR code).

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Re:Telegram gets 3M new signups during Facebook apps’ outage by pnutjam on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:29PM (#19392670)

I use keybase too, but I don't know anyone else; even though I've invited them...

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