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Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop by jrochkind1 on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @05:22PM (#19383981)
Meanwhile, even though the _only_ user-tracking we do where I work is Google Analytics (no advertising features) (and you say your lawyers say you don't need consent for that) -- the official word on high where I work is all our websites need the stupid "i consent to cookies" banner if we use cookies.

So, yeah, it's a mess. These "extra" warnings are contributing to user fatigue, I agree with troy hunt that users are just gonna ignore them all. I also understand why a small organization can say "Well, I don't really understand if we need it or not, the lowest risk thing to do is just to supply it." And there's no law _preventing_ you from supplying an unnecessary pointless cookie warning banner...

Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop by FridgeSeal on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @06:11PM (#19384443)
That’s more the fault of the higher ups for not understanding the law correctly, which really, is on them because the EU went to quite a bit of length to make the document readable and if execs/managers aren’t smart enough to know the difference between necessary and tracking cookies on their own site, then that’s really their own fault.
Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop by droithomme on Thursday March 14, 2019 @10:52AM (#19389721)
> the EU went to quite a bit of length to make the document readable

It's 88 pages of legalese consisting of 99 articles distributed over 13 chapters. It also has dozens of footnotes which incorporate thousands of pages of other laws by reference.

> and if execs/managers aren’t smart enough

Clearly I am too stupid to operate a business and have reading comprehension problems. Thanks for letting me know.

Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop by flukus on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @06:56PM (#19384813)
> Meanwhile, even though the _only_ user-tracking we do where I work is Google Analytics (no advertising features) (and you say your lawyers say you don't need consent for that) -- the official word on high where I work is all our websites need the stupid "i consent to cookies" banner if we use cookies.

Google analytics feeds tracking data to google for advertising purposes and tracks you across sites, it's exactly the sort of crap the cookie warning was meant to stop.

> These "extra" warnings are contributing to user fatigue

Your need for analytics is contributing to user fatigue.

> I agree with troy hunt that users are just gonna ignore them all

So do websites putting up these silly warnings, do you actually wait for people to accept before they get their tracking cookie?

Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop by lmkg on Thursday March 14, 2019 @09:28AM (#19388995)
> Google analytics feeds tracking data to google for advertising purposes and tracks you across sites

That is why GP said "(no advertising features)." That is the name of the feature in GA that does that, and it can be disabled.

Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop by Grumbledour on Thursday March 14, 2019 @11:21AM (#19390004)
However, google is still a third party and I would argue this is not legal, as is using google maps or other external entities known to employ excessive tracking unless you have special data protection contracts with said entity.

But I also understand the law, that anonymous user statistics are just fine and don't need consent as long as you retain the data yourself and of course mention it in your privacy policy. Though you might still be obligated to respect "do not track" and adding an opt-out setting.