Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop
by duxup on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @04:58PM
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>I don't really see it as "what we couldn't do" but "what poor usability we have overcome". I'm glad we have cookies and other forms of local storage, especially for the latter there are many other benefits. Maybe one day we'll get Web SQL.
Yeah I think that's accurate.
It's a little weird sometimes reading all these articles about cookies, JavaScript, etc and I always think "But I use those things to ... give people things, convenience, data, help them do things." But so many times it's not treated as a tool, it's almost implied to be a negative thing.
Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop
by mikeash on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @05:31PM
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90% of web developers give the rest of you a bad name.
Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop
by duxup on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:47PM
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I really wonder if it is more 90% of really visible things give a bad name.
Most just do stuff nobody sees at any volume.
Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop
by mikeash on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:25PM
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That’s a good point. One bad web developer at, say, Facebook cancels out millions of people working on less visible stuff.
Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop
by rhizome on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @10:04PM
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give people things, convenience, data, help them do things
Have you ever reviewed how little you need in order to do all those things, outside of third-party dependencies? Any second guesses at all?
Re:Cookie Warning Shenanigans Have Got to Stop
by duxup on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:54AM
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I don't know what you mean exactly.
I don't really see it as "what we couldn't do" but "what poor usability we have overcome". I'm glad we have cookies and other forms of local storage, especially for the latter there are many other benefits. Maybe one day we'll get Web SQL.
In the meantime people can still disable cookies entirely, or at least delete them when they close the browser, both with out of the box browser settings (and I have no idea what extensions are available to do even more) and return to that less-usable (if slightly more private) experience. The crucial idea of a "user agent" is I think the biggest mindset change the web brought, it's important to keep that even if on the dev side we constantly complain about being asked to support more than one configuration of anything.