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Re:OpenAI LP by komali2 on Monday March 11, 2019 @01:46PM (#19361024)
I was going to make a comment on the line

>The fundamental idea of OpenAI LP is that investors and employees can get a capped return if we succeed at our mission

Is that the mission? Create AGI? If you create AGI, we have a myriad of sci-fi books that have explored what will happen.

1. Post-scarcity. AGI creates maximum efficiency in every single system in the world, from farming to distribution channels to bureaucracies. Money becomes worthless.

2. Immortal ruling class. Somehow a few in power manage to own total control over AGI without letting it/anyone else determine its fate. By leveraging "near-perfect efficiency," they become god-emperors of the planet. Money is meaningless to them.

3. Robot takeover. Money, and humanity, is gone.

Sure, silliness in fiction, but is there a reasonable alternative from the creation of actual, strong general artificial intelligence? I can't see a world with this entity in it that the question of "what happens to the investors' money" is a relevant question at all. Basically, if you succeed, why are we even talking about investor return?

Re:OpenAI LP by Veedrac on Monday March 11, 2019 @08:18PM (#19364207)
As far as I can disentangle from [1], OpenAI posits only moderate superhuman performance. The profit would come from a variant where OpenAI subsumes much but not all of the economy and does not bring things to post-scarcity. The nonprofit would take ownership of almost all of the generated wealth, but the investments would still have value since the traditional ownership structure might be left intact.

I don't buy the idea myself, but I could be misinterpreting.

[1] https://blog.gregbrockman.com/the-openai-mission

Re:OpenAI LP by felipemnoa on Monday March 11, 2019 @04:00PM (#19362233)
>>3. Robot takeover

This is an interesting take of what could happen if humans loose control of such AI system [1]. [spoiler alert] The interesting part is that it isn't that the machines have revolted, but rather that from their point of view their masters have disappeared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blame!_(film)

Re:OpenAI LP by entangledqubit on Monday March 11, 2019 @05:02PM (#19362794)
The sheer scale of machines running amok in this series is pretty fun. The source Manga is better than the movie.
Re:OpenAI LP by tim333 on Monday March 11, 2019 @02:24PM (#19361410)
re 1) there may be no scarcity of food and widgets but there is only so much beachfront land. Money probably won't be worthless.
Re:OpenAI LP by komali2 on Monday March 11, 2019 @02:43PM (#19361612)
I hear you, but not everyone wants beachfront land. Furthermore, I do believe it would be possible to give everyone a way to wake up and see a beach, particularly in a post-scarcity world. I mean, let your imagination run wild - filling out existent islands, artificial island, towers, etc.
Re:OpenAI LP by ivalm on Monday March 11, 2019 @02:52PM (#19361703)
But there will be always preference. Whenever there is preference for finite resources (even if that resource is "number of meter from celebrity X") there needs to be a method for allocation.. which currently is money.
Re:OpenAI LP by nightski on Monday March 11, 2019 @03:16PM (#19361897)
But if money is only useful to buy luxury things like beachfront land is it really going to be useful as a currency of exchange?