Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by egao1980 on Sunday March 10, 2019 @04:17PM
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Nope, it's not radical. DNS system is controlled by US company and if you rely on it your country's infrastructure is vulnerable. So if US decides to cut Russia from DNS national services including government sites should continue to function.
People panic without understanding the reasons behind this law.
Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by comboy on Sunday March 10, 2019 @04:32PM
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I would understand if you were talking about certificates, but DNS? It should not be trusted by default.
Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by liberte82 on Monday March 11, 2019 @04:31PM
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Could you end up with competing DNS services in different nations that direct users to different IPs? Now that could be a mess.
Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by jamespo on Sunday March 10, 2019 @07:01PM
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Doesn't Russia operate the authoritative servers for .ru ?
Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by rzerda on Sunday March 10, 2019 @10:14PM
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TLD servers are useless without root ones. There are several replicas of K-root in Russia, but they are under control of RIPE (EU organization).
Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by jamespo on Tuesday March 12, 2019 @12:31PM
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How are they useless in terms of "if US decides to cut Russia from DNS national services including government sites should continue to function"
What TLD are these sites hosted on?
Re:Thousands of Russians protest against internet restrictions
by rzerda on Tuesday March 12, 2019 @01:41PM
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TLD servers for .ru zone can answer questions like “who should I ask where kremlin.ru is?”, but before that there is a question “where .ru zone DNS servers are”, and that’s what root servers are supposed to answer. If - hypothetically - all root servers will answer “oh, .ru zone is served by that guy in Washington DC”, no DNS resolver would ask “real” .ru servers because list of root servers is effectively hard coded and changing it on all clients is a lot of work.
That seems pretty radical. I mean, because of technology progress (mainly crypto improvements, but also cheaper hardware development) I only see two outcomes in the future: (it's a global issue, not just related to Russia)
1. We have a complete freedom of information exchange. It's a powerful thing. It's not only free speech, but also easily available all illegal digital content and ability to transfer money anonymously. In such scenario, it's inevitable that governments role will diminish. Well, they are huge and powerful, they can still retain a huge influence (and already do * ) by manipulating people, the software they use etc.
2. The Internet as we know it today ceases to exist. Basically what you wrote above and much more. Pretty dark scenario. I always hoped that enough big players (who are able to influence gov) depend enough on the way the Internet currently works, that it would be very hard push this. Maybe not as hard as I thought. Because note that most people, majority of users, simply don't care. Leave top 100 websites working (power law traffic distribution) and most people won't notice the difference.
*. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTYgcdNrXE&feature=youtu.be...