Re:US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in ...
by jkaplowitz on Saturday March 09, 2019 @09:59AM
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Due to the nature of the Schengen area and the greater independence of an EU member state compared to a US state, there's no real way to track whether a US citizen overstays more in some parts of the Schengen area than others. And I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that at least some of the EU member states in question are on track to join Schengen before the time ETIAS launches in 2021.
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Re:US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in ...
by virtualwhys on Saturday March 09, 2019 @11:34AM
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> there's no real way to track whether a US citizen overstays more in some parts of the Schengen area than others.
Doesn't matter, it's 90 days applied to the entire Schengen area, regardless of which member state(s) you visited.
Re:US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in ...
by jkaplowitz on Saturday March 09, 2019 @12:13PM
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Yes, but the person I was responding to found it relevant whether Americans are more likely to overstay in particular EU countries such as the ones on which the US imposes visa requirements. The only possible tracking (for short-term entries) is at the Schengen level, as you say; the US does not require visas from most Schengen nationals. But the US does require ESTA+VWP from them if they don't seek a visa, and this is basically analogous to ETIAS.
Re:US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in ...
by Scoundreller on Saturday March 09, 2019 @12:15PM
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But (for now), there isn’t always a passport-control between Schengen and non-Schengen zones.
E.g. your time in Monaco, Andorra or Ireland.
Dunno if your time in Ireland is kept track of or not if you fly to/from it.
Re:US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in ...
by jkaplowitz on Saturday March 09, 2019 @12:35PM
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Self-replying to note that one of the EU member states on which the US imposes visa requirements, Poland, is already in Schengen. (Edit window has passed.)