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Re:Updates from YC by e40 on Friday March 08, 2019 @04:54PM (#19342585)
- BART is an extremely filthy and dangerous transit system by any 1st world standard, and I say this as a lifelong transit rider.

This is hysteria. I have many coworkers who ride BART on a daily basis for 15+ years and not a single reported incident from any of them, other than stinky homeless people that very rarely ride during peak hours.

Re:Updates from YC by jakelarkin on Friday March 08, 2019 @05:12PM (#19342714)
http://www.ktvu.com/news/bart-investigating-3-violent-deaths...

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/BART-s-approval-...

slightly depends on your entry/exit stations but I would regularly see crack/heroin use, defecation, deranged meth heads screaming and/or picking fights. I doubt I am alone in this.

Re:Updates from YC by enahs-sf on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:48PM (#19343708)
Definitely not Hysteria. I have inhaled second-hand crack smoke walking up the stairs at Civic Center, watched a man defecate on a crowded train, and saw a person get stabbed in the past 5 years of riding BART. It's not this bad in NYC or LA and I couldn't even dream of seeing things like this in Europe or Asia.
Re:Updates from YC by praneshp on Friday March 08, 2019 @05:11PM (#19342709)
> I have many coworkers who ride BART

Have you personally taken BART on a consistent enough basis? I took it two days a week for a significant length of time and calling it filthy is not hysteria at all.

Re:Updates from YC by i_am_nomad on Friday March 08, 2019 @05:43PM (#19342939)
Seconding a couple of other replies here: it is not hysteria. In the 20 years I've lived in the Bay Area, BART has gone from tolerable to completely revolting.
Re:Updates from YC by jon_richards on Friday March 08, 2019 @10:23PM (#19344243)
I don't ride it often and haven't seen any violent crimes, but I've seen police remove quite a few people. Last time we had to wait a while as the police asked the guy to pick up his own used needles.
Re:Updates from YC by briandear on Friday March 08, 2019 @08:05PM (#19343780)
On BART: in 2017: 428 Violent Crimes: 293 robberies, 130 assaults, 5 rapes(!!). In 2007 -- 245 violent crimes.

Ridership has increased 22% over the past decade, however violent crime has increased 75% over the same period.

Re:Updates from YC by jmtulloss on Friday March 08, 2019 @11:10PM (#19344397)
Fascinating. I'd love to read more... Where did you find these stats reported?
Re:Updates from YC by sincerely on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:51PM (#19343730)
I grew up in SF, now live in Toronto and spend a lot of time in NY. Pretending that Bart/MUNI arent on a completely different level than other major cities is ridiculous.
Re:Updates from YC by superbaconman on Friday March 08, 2019 @09:21PM (#19344061)
As an out of state resident who needs to ride that train to get to the airport thanks for the warning. I'll keep my wits about me.
Re:Updates from YC by baby on Saturday March 09, 2019 @08:03PM (#19349579)
> This is hysteria

I've taken public transit all my life and I'm scared every time I take the bart :/