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Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by toomanybeersies on Friday March 08, 2019 @12:26AM (#19335334)
Glenn Martin and Martin Jetpack [0] (Glenn left the company in 2015 though) has been trying to build and bring to market something similar for the past decade (development has been going on decades before that). There's apparent commercial, private, and government interest in the device, but somehow that hasn't actually manifested into a finished and delivered product.

When Glenn spoke to a group of potential investors (which I was somehow a part of) back in 2011 you'd think that they were on the cusp of having a finished product and a stack of orders from the US DOD, a variety of commercial organisations, and dozens of rich people who want a personal aircraft. Technically Martin Jetpack still exists, but it has failed to bring anything to market, despite having millions of dollars poured into the company [1]

I struggle to see how Jetpack Aviation is going to achieve what Glenn and his company failed to do. They don't even have a flying prototype or a physical mockup, only some cool CAD models that look like they were made by some high school kid who's watched Star Wars a few too many times.

Jetpacks and flying motorbikes look cool, but on a practical basis they just aren't useful. They don't fly high enough or fast enough, and they can't operate in high wind or poor weather. For military/government use they aren't suitable and there just aren't enough rich people who want an expensive flying toy to sustain the market.

[0] http://www.martinjetpack.com/

[1] https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&...

Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by dmayman on Friday March 08, 2019 @12:50AM (#19335421)
Our tech could not be more different to the MJP. Theirs was a gasoline engine powering a pair of ducted fans. Too many single points of failure and never able to keep the engine cool, not possible to fly much faster than 60mph. Ours is 1/3rd the size, will fly at 4x the speed. We’ve flown our jetpacks all over the world. We already have a development agreement with the US Navy. They are perfect for overt (perhaps not covert) military ops - insertion and extraction and getting medics into position. Why risk a Blackhawk and crew??!!

Why not for governments and EMS. If we can get EMS medics to heart attack and stroke victims just 1 min quicker the number of lives saved is 100,000 - 200,000/yr just in USA. Isn’t that worth taking a shot at?

I don’t understand the point about flying high enough. We can fly at over 15,000ft

Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by cheeze on Friday March 08, 2019 @01:03AM (#19335476)
Hey first things first I respect what you're doing. A 1% chance of success is worth it here. That being said... You are literally exactly this with your comment...

> When Glenn spoke to a group of potential investors (which I was somehow a part of) back in 2011 you'd think that they were on the cusp of having a finished product and a stack of orders from the US DOD, a variety of commercial organisations, and dozens of rich people who want a personal aircraft.

Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by dmayman on Friday March 08, 2019 @01:24AM (#19335551)
We were never part of the Martin JetPack project. Totally different tech.
Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by schoen on Friday March 08, 2019 @01:33AM (#19335586)
I think small flying vehicles are cool and this is a good use for them, but if this is true, are there other ways to get more people equipped with some of these lifesaving skills at possibly lower marginal cost? CPR training? More AEDs? Some more kinds of injectors that can be used by people with minimal training? Maybe there are other devices on the model of the AED that could administer other kinds of potentially-dangerous treatments?
Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by notahacker on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:39AM (#19336708)
There's also the ability to stick AEDs on drones, which relies on the member of the public reporting the heart attack to use it, but can make them available to that person much more quickly than instructions about where to find the nearest publicly-accessible AED.

You can obviously also have a lot more defibrillator drones available across a city than jetpack-equipped paramedics. I've seen it as a concept, not sure how many are in use and what their success rates have been.

Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by jamestimmins on Friday March 08, 2019 @12:54AM (#19335444)
It's exciting to see y'all working on this. I'm all for the Buck Rogers-style innovation.

I'm curious, how high have you actually flown it? Up to 15,000 ft? That sounds absolutely terrifying.

Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by dmayman on Friday March 08, 2019 @01:07AM (#19335487)
No we haven’t to 15k ft, we’ve modelled that. We’ve flown at approx 7k ft above mean sea level in alps
Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by Footkerchief on Friday March 08, 2019 @11:24AM (#19338973)
How high above local ground level?
Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by nradov on Friday March 08, 2019 @02:29AM (#19335807)
Would you be willing to tell us how you plan to handle power loss failures? Some other powered lift aircraft have had a "death zone" altitude range: too high for the pilot to survive a crash but too low to deploy a parachute.
Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by msie on Friday March 08, 2019 @12:31AM (#19335366)
This company is different. Their jetpack is way more portable than martin’s and Ive seen several videos of successful flights. I think making a motorbike won’t be that hard for them.
Re:YC's latest moonshot bet is a startup building a $380K “f... by Gatsky on Friday March 08, 2019 @01:49AM (#19335637)
Look that's all fine but you must surely realise where you are posting this, and that in the future your comment can only be either irrelevant or held up as an example of people making predictions that turn out to be wrong.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224