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Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by themodelplumber on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @09:55PM (#19325221)
We are pretty open here in the US, sure. I mean I'd never expect things like [0] from China, let alone (what I'd expect to be) comparatively loud work coming from academia.

I say let them keep trying, with some security tweaks here and there as needed/justified. But redouble our connections with academia. We need to harness massive growth in the face of such a conservative opponent, not more excuses to slow things down and stabilize around security so soon.

0. https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by rangibaby on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @10:55PM (#19325402)
> let alone (what I'd expect to be) comparatively loud work coming from academia.

The US was able to use their lead in computers to design stealth aircraft based on Soviet mathematics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Ufimtsev

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by simula67 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @11:53PM (#19325604)
This would prove the OP's point, wouldn't it ? Soviet Russians had interesting discoveries in semiconductors also [1]. However, they were never able to parlay it to economic success as US and other western powers were able to

[1] https://hsm.stackexchange.com/questions/6367/did-russia-have...

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by rangibaby on Thursday March 07, 2019 @12:24AM (#19325723)
I wasn't trying to correct anyone, I just thought it was an interesting factoid
Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by remarkEon on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @10:51PM (#19325390)
>not excuses to slow things down and stabilize around security so soon.

What sort of signal in the noise would tell us that it is indeed time to slow things down and stabilize around security?

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by themodelplumber on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @11:21PM (#19325475)
Your enemies have more resources to gamble on openness than you do. Which they don't, not even close.

Or their espionage _and_ replication skills, given the tech and human gap, are good enough to make up for it. Which, based on the domestic defense tech we are seeing from China, is not yet even close to proven.

It's not a time to be cocky. But we must continue to leverage our comparatively open processes. That was a key lesson of the cold war.

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @11:36PM (#19325522)
Our open processes let the Chinese collect detailed records on every cleared person in the US when the OPM didn't bother to follow the NSA security guidelines.
Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by themodelplumber on Thursday March 07, 2019 @12:08AM (#19325659)
Even better reason to keep pushing forward on new plans and sacrificing security rather than doubling down on security. Make the information obsolete. There's always a hole or a mole somewhere, so you widen the economic-technological gap.

Also in this arena it strikes me that western cyber forces are fortunate indeed that their potential adversaries have a famously centralized governing style. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that we already had some hilariously complete records of that sort from our own expeditions.

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by remarkEon on Saturday March 09, 2019 @11:58PM (#19350379)
>Make the information obsolete.

You can't be serious. "Make private information public" is an absurd reaction to what is a clearly offensive operation.

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by DeonPenny on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @10:32PM (#19325334)
This sounds crazy
Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by Something1234 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @10:57PM (#19325410)
Sounds more like a Chinese agent trying to steal American secrets.
Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by Workaholic_87 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @11:25PM (#19325491)
Ding Ding...we have a winner. I work in the maritime technology space for several large corporations and over the past 18-24 months it is crazy how many LinkedIn requests, cold emails, etc from pretty obvious fabricated profiles from China (and some RU) I've been receiving.

side-note - completed a graduate program @ MIT

Re:Chinese Hackers Target Universities in Pursuit of Maritim... by themodelplumber on Thursday March 07, 2019 @12:09AM (#19325669)
Dear MIT graduate, please join our espion...err LinkedIn group thank you