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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by tombert on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @05:17PM (#19323471)
> Instagram and WhatsApp are running strong with barely no competition

You're not wrong, but I find it a bit frustrating how much resistance I get whenever I try and suggest using Signal instead of Whatsapp. As far as I can tell, it has pretty much all the features of Whatsapp that I use, without all the spying.

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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by jjrh on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @06:07PM (#19323933)
No one wants to install ANOTHER app just to talk to you. Most of us already have at least 3 messaging apps they use on a daily basis and probably a whole lot more they use on a weekly basis.
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by sm4rk0 on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @07:14PM (#19324384)
But why WhatsApp is one of those 3 and Signal is ANOTHER app? Not so long ago WhatsApp was ANOTHER. Now it's not. What changed?
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by schwap on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @08:00PM (#19324682)
I don't remember WhatsApp ever being ANOTHER. It was the first cross-platform messaging app I ever used.
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by sm4rk0 on Thursday March 07, 2019 @08:20AM (#19327766)
Wikipedia says it was released in January 2009. Google Talk started in August 2005. For a GTalk user, it was "another".
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by webninja on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @11:52PM (#19325597)
GroupMe works fine
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by nategri on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @06:02PM (#19323891)
I think there's a lot of "chat app fatigue." I've personally had 5 or 6 on my phone in the past year and you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming into installing even one more of the damned things.
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by frosted-flakes on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @06:45PM (#19324174)
Signal work all right, but it doesn't feel very polished. Notifications are a bit wonky, and the unread message icon never shows up on the home screen icon.
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by elamje on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @09:17PM (#19325036)
Genuinely curious, how is WhatsApp spying? I thought they were encrypted? Are they not end to end encrypted like Keybase or signal?
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by fwn on Thursday March 07, 2019 @02:25AM (#19326189)
They are end to end encrypted. There's apparently a lot of meta data (like the people one communicates with, etc.) that can still be accessed by Facebook.

It also nudges users to enable cloud backups which in practice means that everyone has them enabled (...which in practice means that all your messages are unencrypted in the other person's cloud storage.)

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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by elamje on Thursday March 07, 2019 @02:39PM (#19331429)
Oh no. I see
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by JohnJamesRambo on Wednesday March 06, 2019 @05:48PM (#19323765)
I'm having some pretty good success getting people to switch to Signal in my family. Keep up the good fight!
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Re:U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison R... by magduf on Thursday March 07, 2019 @10:28AM (#19328755)
I would suggest LINE instead.
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